A Couple Of Bugs, Right Off The Bat

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Jagger

I have a 7800GS AGP and it's ok.Only on medium-low settings though.And it's overclocked a bit.
Honest.Just lower the clocks a bit.No good clocking if it just keeps locking.

Your memory ain't running in dual channel.Not with 1.5 gig it ain't any way.You need matched pairs in the correct slots to get dual channel working.
This is number two suspect.A clogged up computer that's had a few installs/uninstalls performed on it and has a messy registry is what I had before a reformat.The game ran like a half broken clockwork toy.Bite the bullet and reinstall.

You can also check how many processes are running when you're trying to play.I have no more than 25 running and none of them influence the gameplay.The ones that do get killed before playing.

Lol, people keep saying that, yes I am running it in Dual Channel.
The computer shows it at startup and Everest shows it too.
That's because I have 2x512 exactly the same and 2x256 exactly the same.

[jOHNNYdOUBE]

I hope yer' memory is Gaming memory then, it matters.
Research the best agp video card for your budget.
Make sure your processes are in check.

[Jagger]

That's because I have 2x512 exactly the same and 2x256 exactly the same.

Hadn't thought of that,but it still may be a problem.

Tried taking the two 256's out? Worth a go I reckon.My box runs this with 1gb dual channel so yours should.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Jagger

Hadn't thought of that,but it still may be a problem.

Tried taking the two 256's out? Worth a go I reckon.My box runs this with 1gb dual channel so yours should.

Hm, I thought I shouldn't even go lower than 1.5, and more like 2GB as today's standard you know.
But if you say so, I could give it a try.
I believe all sticks have the same speeds though, but I'll see what happens.

I do however have another stick of 1GB lying around, ever got it as an extra.
So I could put that one in together with the 2x512.
But then it WOULD run in Single Channel, and a benchmark proved it slower.
Maybe I could buy another same one, if it doesn't costs too much for older memory...

[Jagger]

Removing the two 256's is just a test to see if things get better or not.They may get a fraction slower but the problem may be sorted as well.That would mean a decent memory upgrade would sort it.

It may not work like that but it is worth a try just because it's a free check.

DDR400 memory is still stupidly expensive compared to DDR2 sticks.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Jagger

Removing the two 256's is just a test to see if things get better or not.They may get a fraction slower but the problem may be sorted as well.That would mean a decent memory upgrade would sort it.

It may not work like that but it is worth a try just because it's a free check.

DDR400 memory is still stupidly expensive compared to DDR2 sticks.

Another sign I should just buy a simple new computer I guess.
But I keep getting high total prices, cause of the extra crucial hardware. XD
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[BabaGurGur]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

It is, but then it would make all games less smooth, sadly...
Do you think there is any AGP-card that isn't too expensive though which would make things better without overclocking?

Cause it's weird, I tried the X1950XT in AGP and it didn't help much.

No idea what AGP is, but a Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT 512MB or 8600 GT/GTS will run BF2/PR good, 8500 more for bf2, but the 8600 for PR, 8600 is valued at around 100€, don't know how much dollars that is :P

It is one of those cards that break the old saying "You get what you pay for", this is a really good card, should give you 40-50 fps in PR with all high and 4x AA

Or so my friend says

[Jagger]

No idea what AGP is, but a Nvidia Geforce 8500 GT 512MB or 8600 GT/GTS will run BF2/PR good, 8500 more for bf2, but the 8600 for PR, 8600 is valued at around 100€, don't know how much dollars that is

Ahhhh,a history lesson.

Accelerated Graphics Port,a legacy standardisation for graphics cards that was a quantum leap in its time.Still in use in many folks systems believe it or not although generally not gamers.

All the cards you mention are shiny PCI Express cards,the latest standard and not compatible.

Unfortunately the upgrade path from AGP is a full system as Damage has figured.

[Damage Inc.]

You don't know what AGP is? *LOL* How YOUNG are you?
But I know what cards are out there.
The thing is just, I was also planning to run much newer games.
Like Rainbow Six Vegas (1 & 2), Far Cry 2, Assasin's Creed (sadly it recommends 3GBs of RAM),
maybe Crysis for the fun of it and some other games.
Because BF2 got pretty old, hence me looking for a mod.

And Euros are just fine, I am Dutch.
But I love the Dollar, it's a lot less in Euros.

For an upgrade I could also of course just replace the motherboard.
But then I would have to find (an older) one to match all my other older hardware.
Which I researched on once, and I believe it's (almost) not possible.
And for a GPU, I would probably go with the 8800GT.
That's a pretty nice standard instead of a lower-end GeForce 8 or spend too much on a GTX or anything like that.
Since I don't have that much money which make me buy for the long run.


Edit:

Ah, I just installed my mental update, and let me rephrase:
"I would probably go with the 9600GT."
It apparently is better than the 8800GT, and on top of that, even more affordable.
Looks like my new computer is getting closer after all.

[[R-DEV]Masaq]

Glad to hear it - don't worry about a GTX or anything, you pay far above the odds for the extra little bit of oomph. Only worth buying one if you do what I did - wait a year and a bit for prices to drop a little and then import one from a country with a very favourable exchange rate lol. Buying from America worked for me (I'm a Brit.) An 8800GT would probably do you just fine

What I'd also suggest if you're going down the upgrade route is to buy a new hard-drive too (even a fairly small, cheapish one) and install your OS again onto that, so you've got a clean fresh install to work with your new hardware. Windows *hates* having major hardware changes (motherboard etc) taking place beneath it; a clean install is a much better option. If you get a new drive rather than reformat your old, it makes it much easier to copy your old data across; and you get the benefit of having a second drive to back vital data up on to.

Underlying all of this of course is the urge to play PR (hopefully, still!). What I'd say as a general rule of thumb is that PR plays best on 2Gb of memory or more, and that 1.5Gb is the very minimum for a decent experience.

As others hand said, with regards to gameplay really, please do check out the manual - it's very very different to standard BF2/BF2142, and the changes can be very misleading in-game. Also, whilst you'd think that most people in-game would be helpful, many will simply say "read the manual". If you can at least say "I'm sorry - I read the manual but I've forgotton", people will probably be a tad more helpful!


M.