Worst crash I ever had in any game. - Page 3

[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG · 11-27-2006, 02:59 AM

Ok, case reopened. Again! I spawned and my HDD thrashed for 10min) I waited till it stopped. Now I had the chance to see what happened. BF2 leaked its guts - it was using 4.5GB of RAM+Virtual memory! How is this possible?

[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG · 11-27-2006, 03:45 AM

It happened again on the TacticalGamer.com server. The IP is 64.34.161.157:16567. Could this be a server related issue? This crash has only happened with this server.

dizzy · 11-27-2006, 12:50 PM

Well they are running 64 player map which I think would take more ram. Maybe a reinstall of BF2 would help. Or maybe BF2 just doesn't play well with 2003?

DkMick · 11-27-2006, 03:32 PM

I noticed they are also patched to vBF2 1.41 if that's worth anything.

[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG · 11-27-2006, 05:18 PM

Whatever they are doing is not good. I can play all other 64-player servers with no problem. BF2 works great with 2003 as do all other games.

Kind of odd that I only get this memory leak (and yes it is a memory leak) with THIS GAME->REALITY MOD->THIS PARTICULAR SERVER

BF2 is not supposed to eat 4.5GB of RAM. The fact that it is means that something went badly wrong.

Just for the hell of it I might end up doing a re-install. When the patch for PR comes out. In the mean time I will play on every other server with no problems.

Darkpowder · 11-27-2006, 05:50 PM

In my experience i have seen devastating crashes (OS trashed and partitions die) due to two things, heat and power drain over the PCI or memory bus.

When the 3d card draws a lot of power to render and display 3d graphics on your system, it will expose heat problems caused by significant airflow problems or show up limitations on your PSU power rails.

I have also seen these type of crashes with power-draining soundcards or some other card of this type being added to systems on the limit of the PSU's capability.
Most often seen with PCI-E cards without on-board power connectors, where a lot of current is being drawn through the PCI-E bus.

Have you put any new cards in recently, if not sounds like you were just unlucky or perhaps stressed the limitations of your system in one of the way si just described.

[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG · 11-27-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkpowder

In my experience i have seen devastating crashes (OS trashed and partitions die) due to two things, heat and power drain over the PCI or memory bus.

Sure, Darkpowder, I've seen the same and agree with everything you said - those things can happen as a result of power issues. Many people forget that the PC is an incredibly complex electronic machine that depends on each component getting the correct power within a certain threshold. Even a single capacitor that no longer holds its charge to spec can make a difference.

I don't think this is what happened though. I pressed reset whilst my system was thrashing (writing to my swap file as a result of a SEVERE memory leak in BF2). I can only assume that at that point Windows was writing something to my partition table and me pressing reset caused it to get corrupt, most likely because only partial data was written. No matter. I have not lost my partition table since (now I'll wait 10min for the thrashing to stop if it happens again).

Until such a time as some sort of patch comes out for PR I'll just stay away from 64.34.161.157:16567. All other servers are ok. Might just be that BF2 1.41 is really incompatible with PR 0.4.

Wergilius · 11-29-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [-=IDSF=-]SykloAG

Ok, case reopened. Again! I spawned and my HDD thrashed for 10min) I waited till it stopped. Now I had the chance to see what happened. BF2 leaked its guts - it was using 4.5GB of RAM+Virtual memory! How is this possible?

I have same type of problem, I have 2.5GB RAM and after a while when playing PR (after 2 or more new maps), the system starts swapping to the HD.
Now when I now whats going on, I quit at once PR and when the HD has cool down I only have about 1GB of free RAM, normaly its about 2.3GB.
This RAM is gone and in task manager process tab the total amount of used RAM is less so 1.3GB RAM as leeked away somewhere

If I reboot the RAm comes back and I can play for a while again.

This dosn't happen when playing BF2 (1.41)

Would be nice to solve this..

Darth.Skyline · 11-29-2006, 04:35 PM

The only time i crashed this bad (i remembered) was when ea released 1.01 patch

had a memory leak on it and it f'd everyone up lol.

[R-DEV]eggman · 11-29-2006, 04:47 PM

knowing the map this happened on, your RAM, video card make & model, and your vRAM seem to be relevant issues here.

While PR might cause BF2 to misbehave in ways not seen elsewhere, there is absolutely nothing PR itself can do to cause this sort of crash. It would be a BF2 related crash that .. perhaps .. something about PR is causing.

11-27-2006, 12:50 PM	#23
dizzy Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 697	Well they are running 64 player map which I think would take more ram. Maybe a reinstall of BF2 would help. Or maybe BF2 just doesn't play well with 2003?
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11-27-2006, 03:32 PM	#24
DkMick Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 181	I noticed they are also patched to vBF2 1.41 if that's worth anything.
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11-27-2006, 05:50 PM	#26
Darkpowder PR Beta Testing Team Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 883	In my experience i have seen devastating crashes (OS trashed and partitions die) due to two things, heat and power drain over the PCI or memory bus. When the 3d card draws a lot of power to render and display 3d graphics on your system, it will expose heat problems caused by significant airflow problems or show up limitations on your PSU power rails. I have also seen these type of crashes with power-draining soundcards or some other card of this type being added to systems on the limit of the PSU's capability. Most often seen with PCI-E cards without on-board power connectors, where a lot of current is being drawn through the PCI-E bus. Have you put any new cards in recently, if not sounds like you were just unlucky or perhaps stressed the limitations of your system in one of the way si just described.
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11-29-2006, 04:35 PM	#29
Darth.Skyline Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,122	The only time i crashed this bad (i remembered) was when ea released 1.01 patch had a memory leak on it and it f'd everyone up lol.
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11-29-2006, 04:47 PM	#30
[R-DEV]eggman PR Operations Lead Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,351	knowing the map this happened on, your RAM, video card make & model, and your vRAM seem to be relevant issues here. While PR might cause BF2 to misbehave in ways not seen elsewhere, there is absolutely nothing PR itself can do to cause this sort of crash. It would be a BF2 related crash that .. perhaps .. something about PR is causing.
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11-27-2006, 02:59 AM	#21
[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 404	Ok, case reopened. Again! I spawned and my HDD thrashed for 10min) I waited till it stopped. Now I had the chance to see what happened. BF2 leaked its guts - it was using 4.5GB of RAM+Virtual memory! How is this possible?

11-27-2006, 03:45 AM	#22
[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 404	It happened again on the TacticalGamer.com server. The IP is 64.34.161.157:16567. Could this be a server related issue? This crash has only happened with this server.

11-27-2006, 05:18 PM	#25
[-=IDSF=-]SykloAG Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 404	Whatever they are doing is not good. I can play all other 64-player servers with no problem. BF2 works great with 2003 as do all other games. Kind of odd that I only get this memory leak (and yes it is a memory leak) with THIS GAME->REALITY MOD->THIS PARTICULAR SERVER BF2 is not supposed to eat 4.5GB of RAM. The fact that it is means that something went badly wrong. Just for the hell of it I might end up doing a re-install. When the patch for PR comes out. In the mean time I will play on every other server with no problems.

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