[Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio

waldo_ii · 04-29-2009, 06:15 PM

Description:
This bug isn't very well known I can imagine, but it can give an unintended and unfair advantage to a commander. When the commander satellite zoom was "removed", I assume all you did was place a image over where the video feed is supposed to be. Unfortunately, what was overlooked was removing the ability to hear what is going on at that camera location when the CO zooms down to that level. In vanilla BF2, if you are commander and you zoom down to the live battle feed, you can not only see what is going on, but you can also hear it. You can still hear it now.

By exploiting this, a commander can do a number of things to get unfair intel. They can zoom down over the enemy main base and tell the team when vehicles are moving out. They can fly around blind until they hear a tank rolling around. The commander can even hear assets being shoveled up, or infantry sprinting, or a sniper firing, and pin-point them to some degree of accuracy.

Steps to Reproduce:
Go on any map with a buddy, go commander, and tell that buddy to drive his truck somewhere. Zoom all three levels down onto his location, and you can hear the engine.

Screenshots / Video:
None. It can be tested easily the next time any of you mighty Devs play PR; just hop in the CO seat for a minute.

Tested On:
Numerous maps. It will work anywhere.

I do not think many people know about this, and I do not think it is a serious problem. If it can be fixed quickly, then I think it should be done. If it cannot be done, I certainly understand why.

While I know very little of the BF2 engine, the ways I think that this can be solved are by either

Disabling audio and video output in the third magnification of zoom
Disabling the ability to zoom down to the third layer
Replacing/redirecting the audio with something else, like an empty sound file.

Vege · 04-29-2009, 06:23 PM

Well known.
Thou, no worrys, nobody commands anymore

DeltaFart · 04-29-2009, 06:40 PM

hahah nice point vege
THough next timeI do command I'll do taht more often

, I mean wth, we have code breakers breaking into communications irl, so hearing something isn't htat differnet
Ok that has no connection but whatever

Hfett · 04-29-2009, 07:43 PM

Edit, i though you could "see", just hearing is not a big deal

[R-DEV]crazy11 · 04-29-2009, 09:07 PM

This is a well known bug to the DEVs but they have not figured out a way to stop it.

04-29-2009, 06:15 PM	#1
waldo_ii Join Date: Apr 2008 United States of America Location: Minnesota Posts: 971	[Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio Description: This bug isn't very well known I can imagine, but it can give an unintended and unfair advantage to a commander. When the commander satellite zoom was "removed", I assume all you did was place a image over where the video feed is supposed to be. Unfortunately, what was overlooked was removing the ability to hear what is going on at that camera location when the CO zooms down to that level. In vanilla BF2, if you are commander and you zoom down to the live battle feed, you can not only see what is going on, but you can also hear it. You can still hear it now. By exploiting this, a commander can do a number of things to get unfair intel. They can zoom down over the enemy main base and tell the team when vehicles are moving out. They can fly around blind until they hear a tank rolling around. The commander can even hear assets being shoveled up, or infantry sprinting, or a sniper firing, and pin-point them to some degree of accuracy. Steps to Reproduce: Go on any map with a buddy, go commander, and tell that buddy to drive his truck somewhere. Zoom all three levels down onto his location, and you can hear the engine. Screenshots / Video: None. It can be tested easily the next time any of you mighty Devs play PR; just hop in the CO seat for a minute. Tested On: Numerous maps. It will work anywhere. I do not think many people know about this, and I do not think it is a serious problem. If it can be fixed quickly, then I think it should be done. If it cannot be done, I certainly understand why. While I know very little of the BF2 engine, the ways I think that this can be solved are by either Disabling audio and video output in the third magnification of zoom Disabling the ability to zoom down to the third layer Replacing/redirecting the audio with something else, like an empty sound file.
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04-29-2009, 06:23 PM	#2
Vege Join Date: Jun 2008 Finland Posts: 479	Re: [Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio Well known. Thou, no worrys, nobody commands anymore
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04-29-2009, 06:40 PM	#3
DeltaFart Join Date: Feb 2008 United States of America Location: Glassboro NJ Posts: 2,395	Re: [Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio hahah nice point vege THough next timeI do command I'll do taht more often , I mean wth, we have code breakers breaking into communications irl, so hearing something isn't htat differnet Ok that has no connection but whatever
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04-29-2009, 07:43 PM	#4
Hfett PR Mapper Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,621	Re: [Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio Edit, i though you could "see", just hearing is not a big deal
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04-29-2009, 09:07 PM	#5
[R-DEV]crazy11 Lead Beta Tester - US Join Date: Feb 2008 United States of America Location: California Posts: 4,754	Re: [Minor Exploit] Commander sattellite zoom audio This is a well known bug to the DEVs but they have not figured out a way to stop it.
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