PR guns are too hard to hit anything with

[richyrich55]

Originally Posted by triggger30-06

I was playing PR today a i relised that the guns are crap and you cant hit bad guys at all i wait 4sec between each shot and aim and the chest and no rounds hit them they go left,right,up or down. Its not that i a bad player i've play PR for 3 years and it only been this bad in 0.9 please fix the prob in 0.91 its unbearable.



Trigger

Hi, yea I'm pretty sure you just suck. I can kill people fine and dandy. Even with the AR kit.

[LithiumFox]

Another waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah thread.

> > I'll just stop here.

The devs did carefully modify deviation since .7. If you wanna complain, find .7 or .75 when deviation was HORRIBLE. If you even moved a little bit it completely reset. So stop whining and realize that the reason it is there this late in a BETA mod is because it WORKS.

[TristanYockell]

I just had a round where I killed 12 brits on al basrah from anywhere from 100-250 meters away with various ak's.In turn I only got shot twice. In my opinion the deviation is fine so long as you know how to properly use it.

[Proceed]

Originally Posted by _TeilyN_

I'm a professionel soldier, and have been for quite some years now, and I can effectively hit anything up to 500 meters with an assault rifle.

With iron sights and an AK 47 ?
Even with a M16 hitting a torso on 500 meters distance with iron sights is much luck, lets just start with the diffrences in wind between your position and each 100 meters farther.

Cheers Proceed

[kanonator]

I like it how the deviation makes it very hard for one person to take on a target. With the system, effective killing is best with a squad unloading their weapons on the target. With four to six times more bullets firing at the target, one of them is certainly bound to hit him.

[Nick_Gunar]

It is all about timing, with the new system my killing score got better (especially in CQC against insta-proners ^^).
You have to take your time even though it can be hard in the midst of fire, take your time to aim and make a pause between shot (there is a useful post with all the seconds of every weapons). The most relevant example is the saw, now small spacing bursts are deadly.

There are no secrets, you have to know your weapon which varies from factions and kits (recoil, accuracy, sight,...).

[BadGuy]

Depends on what rifle.

Good Rifles:

AK-47 (All AK's are the best in full auto groupings or have the least kick)
AK-74
AK-74U
C-7 (Is Marksmen Accurate at times)
Enfeild SMLE (Will hit a dime the second you stop or if you can hit medium ranges without scope)
M-4 (The Full auto one is the best CQB gun)
M-16, A1-A2 (A1 Is very accurate but big full auto kick)
G3A3 (kills in two shots)
L-86 (Marksmen Variant is better)
all basic rifles and are a lot better

The sniper rifle hits but you have to wait for over a minute staying prone to hit at sniper ranges now.
The M24 is the best but the SWS gun in my brothers opinion Does not hit at all and I have watched him at times not hitting targets with the SWS with sights lined up for the kill. The Enfeild is the second best one that kills on two but can bleed out with one.

The Marksmen rifles are a lot more tricky now because of the whole bi-pod thing still does not quite work.

The SVD still works as good without a bi-pod and is know to hit sniper ranges from 7.5

The Type 88 is a fine Chinese gun because the qbz's do not have a quite as accurate grouping with random bullets off to the side at times.

SG1 is now not as good because the G3 out preforms it in more adaptive combat situations.

M-14 is the only American gun that bleeds in one or kills in two shots, but is almost as bad as SG1.

Best Guns for me? G3A3, C-7, AK-74 UGL, AK-47, SVD, L-86, Enfeild SMLE and scope. All have proven my solo kill sprees.

All AR kits as my brother says is almost as better as a sniper.

[SANS_Dusky]

Originally Posted by _TeilyN_

a professionel soldier...

Nuff said.


I find the deviation to be perfect in this game and almost as ideal as it could be. Although i'm not in military service I would assume only hardened battle vets would be able to acquire a target and fire accurately in 4 seconds during a heated firefight. Just my ten cents.

[Dev1200]

Originally Posted by Jigsaw

PEBKAC im afraid..

What the panda said.


Also, It wouldn't hurt to have 1 less second of deviation.

The only thing I HATE is the british marksman. thats terrible.

Plus deviation for the Auto M4's and Auto M16's are so so much less then they are for the US. Lrn2 Balance.

[Stogie]

The only thing that makes it hard for me hitting things is that the Iron Sights/Red Dots are a bit too far away, like he`s holding the gun 1m away from his body, a bit unrealisitc :-/ . A little zoom effect (Factor 0.8 ?) or the sights closer would be nice.