[Weapons] SA80 Bayonet [WIP]

[robbo]

Hmm i dont no about this one i was dead set on it being a blood channel but i see were your coming from, but i would imagine the blood would flow down the channel though.

[Rico11b]

I really can't believe that you guys are arguing over a freakin knife. Who gives a dam. We have many more important issues at hand than a stupid knife and whether or not it has a "blood channel".

However, I'm only gonna say this once, so listen up.
The long rectangle "channel" that is made into the blade is there to assist in blade removal once it is plunged deeply into something. NOT TO LET BLOOD OUT, but to let air in! It is there to make the blade easier to remove once it is buried deep into flesh and bone.

When a human being is stabbed; the organs, muscle and small rib bones will cave in surrounding the blade and trap it in place. When someone attempts to remove the blade "SUCTION" from the wound canal makes this a very difficult task. Even with a channel in the blade it is sometimes difficult to remove, but it would be much harder without it.
As for the hole that is cut into the knife near the tip. That is there so it can be snapped into the carrying sheath to be used as shears to cut things like rope or thin wire, NOT TO LET BLOOD OUT. So the sheath pulls double duty, just like the knife.

With the knife and carrying sheath you have a Combat knife, a bayonet, and a set of cuttings shears all in one neat little package.

Now isn't that ingenious? I thought so too

[Harrod200]

Originally Posted by Rico11b

With the knife and carrying sheath you have a Combat knife, a bayonet, and a set of cuttings shears all in one neat little package.

Now isn't that ingenious? I thought so too

You forgot the bottle opener.

[Expendable Grunt]

Originally Posted by Rico11b

I really can't believe that you guys are arguing over a freakin knife. Who gives a dam. We have many more important issues at hand than a stupid knife and whether or not it has a "blood channel".

However, I'm only gonna say this once, so listen up.
The long rectangle "channel" that is made into the blade is there to assist in blade removal once it is plunged deeply into something. NOT TO LET BLOOD OUT, but to let air in! It is there to make the blade easier to remove once it is buried deep into flesh and bone.

When a human being is stabbed; the organs, muscle and small rib bones will cave in surrounding the blade and trap it in place. When someone attempts to remove the blade "SUCTION" from the wound canal makes this a very difficult task. Even with a channel in the blade it is sometimes difficult to remove, but it would be much harder without it.
As for the hole that is cut into the knife near the tip. That is there so it can be snapped into the carrying sheath to be used as shears to cut things like rope or thin wire, NOT TO LET BLOOD OUT. So the sheath pulls double duty, just like the knife.

With the knife and carrying sheath you have a Combat knife, a bayonet, and a set of cuttings shears all in one neat little package.

Now isn't that ingenious? I thought so too

No, it DOES NOT solve any "suction" issues at all, ever.

[Harrod200]

If the grooves are for weight, how much weight is saved by trimming barely a few square cm? Kinda makes more sense on something so small and lightweight anyway for it to relieve suction...

Next time I go mug someone, I'll take a grooved and non-grooved blade with me and compare them

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

if its for wait saving then they would have cut wholes though the knife...

the air suction makes a lot of seance to me.

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by Expendable Grunt

No, it DOES NOT solve any "suction" issues at all, ever.

I didn't say it solved anything, I implied that it helped to reduce the force needed to remove the blade. Which is all it really does.

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The simplest thing that can REALLY solve blade removal issue is...

When the knife if mounted on the rifle and you impale someone with it. Then you fire a bullet into the body before attempting to remove the knife/bayonet. That will end most all suction issues most of the time. Why you say, because you have just ventilated the body cavity. In that case there won't be much (if any) force required to remove the blade from the body.

But firing a shot in a situation such as that is not always the best idea. Why fire a shot if you don't have to. That would give away your position. Not to mention the last thing you need is a steady stream of bodies to bayonet. You may have run out of ammo, so why use a blade that can't be removed quickly and easily.

But please, don't take my word for it. As I am sure you won't anyway. Go test for yourself. Purchase two really large Watermelons, and get two really larges knives. One with a channel and one without, and stab both melons sending the blade in all the way to the hilt.

That was kinda easy wasn't it. Now try to pull it out. If you used a knife with a blade the sticks out the other side then you have cheated, cause most combat knives aren't long enough to go all the way through. Would be nice to have a blade that long because it would self-ventilate wouldn't it. But a combat knife/ bayonet needs to be short for many reasons.

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Not to change the subject, but why can't I edit my post?
The edit button is not there anymore. Is that on purpose or has something happened?

R


Triple post merged.
You cant edit posts in DEV journal.
-GrayeKnight

[SuperArmy]

the groves are for to prevent the blade getting stuck inside the body.... its to prevent suction. IF you still dont believe us watch the first episode of 'Ross Kemp in Afghanistan' They talk about what each part of the bayonet does.

[Cyrax-Sektor]

Originally Posted by Rico11b

Not to change the subject, but why can't I edit my post?
The edit button is not there anymore. Is that on purpose or has something happened?

R

I don't think you can edit posts in the Dev Journal. I realized I could edit on other forums, but not this one.

[robbo]

Guy on Ross kemp says and i quote "....along the side here lower back is what we call the blood drains" he is then rudely interupted by Ross and says to stop suction.