Seeking info - H&K417 and LM&T LM7 (L129A1)

gazzthompson · 11-12-2009, 08:12 PM

ive seen round various places that royal marines are trialling the 417 as a DM rifle.

Heckler & Koch HK417 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wiki.... yayayaya but still. Any one got some other information on this or some "inside" info (duckhunt?)

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley · 11-12-2009, 08:32 PM

Nah, the HK417 wont be seeing service with the British armed forces, they're getting the LM&T LM7. Following the trials it was decided not to adopt the 417.

But have a photo of a marine clutching a '417 anyway.

This is the weapon that'll be issed to "big army" units:

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/r...162009-018.jpg

[R-CON]creepin · 11-25-2009, 03:36 PM

look at him, how happy he is

what is the LM&T LM7?

searching for it on google leads me to this thread

somewhere else it states that it's a new DMR rifle for the Uk, so the 417 wouldnt've been purchased as an assault rifle in the first place?

Scot · 11-25-2009, 04:31 PM

Old thread, yeah, but just saying, the cited source for the Royal Marines using the 417 only mentions SAS and SBS using it, so yaah.

E: having looked around a wee bit, here is a pic with a dude holding what looks like Bob's rifle:
http://soldiermagazine.co.uk/images/...065-0049_2.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8092/britspr.jpg

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewto...iewresult.html

That site offers a little bit.

[R-MOD]KP · 11-25-2009, 05:02 PM

That's not it, mate. Looks more like some sort of modified M16 - a SAM-R or equivalent. Look at the RIS, which is different from the one Bob posted (which I've never heard of, TBH).

[R-CON]creepin · 11-25-2009, 05:10 PM

zomfg, bob posted something about a secret weapon that nobody knows about!!

Scot · 11-25-2009, 05:27 PM

Apparently reading from that site, the one that Bob posted is a Civi version, the L7 is a militarised version of it. But I really don't know, and I'm not a gun nut at all

E: I did more digging. The picture's I had were just USMC SAM-Rs, not L7s.

The Brits are supposedly getting around 50 L7s.

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...Weapon+System+ <- L7 site.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/p=2980252.html <- a lot of people allegedly know a lot of things here...

[R-DEV]strima · 11-25-2009, 05:49 PM

There was a thread on ARRSE I was looking for which discussed this but I can't find it. Basically what Bob says is correct for our new DMR although the LSW will still be around for some time.

Morgan · 11-25-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-CON]creepin

look at him, how happy he is

what is the LM&T LM7?

searching for it on google leads me to this thread

somewhere else it states that it's a new DMR rifle for the Uk, so the 417 wouldnt've been purchased as an assault rifle in the first place?

Google LM&T LM7 and go to images. Bob's and gazz's avatars are 2 of the 6 pics listed...

Hitperson · 11-25-2009, 08:51 PM

Holy crap!!

11-12-2009, 08:12 PM	#1
gazzthompson PR:ArmA2 Beta Test Team Join Date: Jan 2007 United Kingdom Location: norfolk Posts: 6,995	Seeking info - H&K417 and LM&T LM7 (L129A1) ive seen round various places that royal marines are trialling the 417 as a DM rifle. Heckler & Koch HK417 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia wiki.... yayayaya but still. Any one got some other information on this or some "inside" info (duckhunt?)
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[R-MOD]Bob_Marley Forum Moderator Join Date: May 2006 United Kingdom Location: Essex, UK Posts: 6,870	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines Nah, the HK417 wont be seeing service with the British armed forces, they're getting the LM&T LM7. Following the trials it was decided not to adopt the 417. But have a photo of a marine clutching a '417 anyway. This is the weapon that'll be issed to "big army" units: http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/r...162009-018.jpg
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[R-CON]creepin PR:BF2 Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 United States of America Location: Maryland Posts: 2,504	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines look at him, how happy he is what is the LM&T LM7? searching for it on google leads me to this thread somewhere else it states that it's a new DMR rifle for the Uk, so the 417 wouldnt've been purchased as an assault rifle in the first place?
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Scot PR:BF2 Beta Test Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Viet Nam Location: In da hood Posts: 9,403	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines Old thread, yeah, but just saying, the cited source for the Royal Marines using the 417 only mentions SAS and SBS using it, so yaah. E: having looked around a wee bit, here is a pic with a dude holding what looks like Bob's rifle: http://soldiermagazine.co.uk/images/...065-0049_2.jpg http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8092/britspr.jpg http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewto...iewresult.html That site offers a little bit.
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11-25-2009, 05:02 PM	#5
[R-MOD]KP Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Norway Location: Bodø Posts: 7,317	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines That's not it, mate. Looks more like some sort of modified M16 - a SAM-R or equivalent. Look at the RIS, which is different from the one Bob posted (which I've never heard of, TBH).
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[R-CON]creepin PR:BF2 Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 United States of America Location: Maryland Posts: 2,504	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines zomfg, bob posted something about a secret weapon that nobody knows about!!
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Scot PR:BF2 Beta Test Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Viet Nam Location: In da hood Posts: 9,403	Re: Seeking info - H&K417 with royal marines Apparently reading from that site, the one that Bob posted is a Civi version, the L7 is a militarised version of it. But I really don't know, and I'm not a gun nut at all E: I did more digging. The picture's I had were just USMC SAM-Rs, not L7s. The Brits are supposedly getting around 50 L7s. http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...Weapon+System+ <- L7 site. http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/p=2980252.html <- a lot of people allegedly know a lot of things here...
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