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Old 04-17-2009, 06:27 PM   #11
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Sorry couldn't resist

But really, modern warfare won't happen. I'll take Einstein on this one:
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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

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Old 04-17-2009, 06:40 PM   #12
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modern warfare- isnt that just pushing a button and everyone dies? nukes are bad.

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Old 04-17-2009, 07:05 PM   #13
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2008 South Ossetia war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:41 PM   #14
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Modern Warfare?


(Pick won't load? If so, damn)

Just had.. to... do.. it, could.. not... resist!

But I think "Modern Warfare" is where the enemies are equal, or atleast almost, when it comes to firepower and such.

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Old 04-18-2009, 02:09 AM   #15
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Ehe CoD 4 is just taking WW2 era fighting style and turning it into modern with modern vehicles, guns, etc.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:13 AM   #16
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Ehe CoD 4 is just taking WW2 era fighting style and turning it into modern with modern vehicles, guns, etc.
No.


CoD, CoD 2, and CoD 4 = Suger-pumped 12-year-olds on a cocaine high running around with guns and superhuman abilities. Anyone who legitimately thinks that any of these games compare to real warfare needs a punch in the face.

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Old 04-18-2009, 09:01 AM   #17
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War starts

Someone gets the upper hand

Everyone gets nuked.
Sadly this is true. Dont say there are agreements to stop this, Britain was prepared to use 'illegal gas' to stop the Germans coming over the channel.... All is fair in love and war

And planes cannot secure ground, troops can use fighting styles to stop domination, plus the now more readily available mobile AA will tone air supremacy down. Infantry movilg quickly unseen is what IMO will win a war, look at the Vietnamese, with worse troops they effectively 'won' the war, imagine what a properly rained and fully equiped army could do.
In cities 'rabbit warrens' of passages will win it out due to the defenders having the experience to know unseen routes. If equally trained and equipped armies fought the defenders would win due to knoledge of the tarrain.


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Old 04-18-2009, 10:46 AM   #18
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One side gains air supremacy, the other side is forced to wage a guerrilla war.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:52 AM   #19
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yom kippur and 6 day war aren't good examples of what a modern conventional warfare might look like. sure, these wars were quite recent but you have to keep in mind that both sides used even WW2 equipment (shermans for israelis and t34 for egyptians, and lots of artillery). these wars were closer to WW2 imo, because there was no use of missles and intelligent bombs.



Yom Kippur yes six day war was a combination yes no intelligent bombs but u are wrong it was actually quite modern egypt did actually use t 55 mbt and the Israelis used the british made centurion there was shermans and t34's then but in reserve units no they may not be in the same league as todays tanks but they were powerfull still used by some nations today. The egypt at the start nearly destroyed the Israil airforce with missile and radar guided AA and russian made SA missile systems on the Suez channal, then egypt used sagar rockets to attack the assualting IDF troops, if egypt didnt try to help syria and advance it could have been different.

(taking from 20th century battlefields by peter and dan snow)


well first gulf war was in a way conventional 2 armies in the field fighting, i remember seeing it on tv, just because iraq didnt have the tech as the UN froces still didnt mean it wasnt one,

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Old 04-19-2009, 05:27 AM   #20
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The Egyptians made extensive use of integrated air defence systems and guided antitank missile systems during the Yom Kippor war. Thier missile defence systems forced the Israeli aircraft to fly low or get hit by the missiles, but if they flew low they were stuck dodging Shilkas which wasn't much better.

As techno said, the AT-2 Saggers really tore up the Sinai Division during thier initial counter attack. Though it should be noted the Israelis seemed to be rather overconfident in thier own abilties due to thier decision to assault dug in infantry armed with advanced AT weapons with a head on armoured attack.

The flaw in the Egyptian plan was advancing beyond the range of thier missile systems, which ment the IAF could operate happily at altiude. The EAF wasn't able to effectivly cover the advancing tanks and they were ripped to shreds by the IAF and ground troops.

The real lesson of Yom Kippor was how much integrated air defence could ruin an air force's day. Its one of the reasons the Americans spent so much developing stealth aircraft, so they could knock out key components of the air defence network so thier conventional aircraft could rain hell on the enemy largely untroubled. Of course the other important lesson was that you needed to be able to take your SAM shield with you!

The key to modernising any weapon is covering them in glue and tossing them in a barrel of M1913 rails until they look "Modern" enough.

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