USMC using UH-1s, AH-1s instead of UH60 and AH64?

SHAz_181 · 01-03-2009, 07:44 AM

I was reading the comments of a certain youtube video recently, and someone asked something along the lines of 'Why do the Marines still use Cobras and Hueys instead of Blackhawks and Apaches?'. I don't know why, but there has to be a reason. I'm guesing here, but are the Hueys and Cobras easier to store on carriers or something? Or is there a totally different reason?

waldo_ii · 01-03-2009, 11:28 AM

I certainly won't say this is the only reason, but due to the fact that the Marines are the smallest of the branches of the military, they do often get undercut in funding.

Ghent · 01-03-2009, 11:38 AM

I always thought they were easier for maintenance

[R-DEV]Dunehunter · 01-03-2009, 11:41 AM

I always heard they got the leftovers but that may be wrong :P

Maybe it's because they are more infantry-focused?

ReaperAce712 · 01-03-2009, 12:09 PM

Not really they are mainly an amphibious assault force that spend there time abroad in naval ships. The Marines are the smallest force of the branches but they are the first to fight in wartime situations the Army has all of the fancy stuff because they are the occupation force that come after the Marines secure a city, town FOB etc. Marines and Army have different equipment for there different types of roles for example you wouldn't send Air Force PJ's on a Reconnaissance mission nor would you sent Recon Marines in a Search and Destroy, they each have there own unique roles that play an important part in any US Military or NATO operation

Colonelcool125 · 01-03-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghent

I always thought they were easier for maintenance

Many of the parts on the two helicopters are interchangeable, making them easier, cheaper, and most importantly, faster to repair. You don't want to be waiting two weeks for parts when your whole assault only lasts three days.

Plus, it's not like they're bad helicopters.

williejones · 01-03-2009, 01:14 PM

is there any big difference in speed? or maneuverability? Huey im guessing is easier to insert troops in to an urban environment because of the size

[R-DEV]Nosferatu · 01-03-2009, 01:16 PM

There was a competition between AH-1 and Sea Apache prototype. Cobra won.

Solid Knight · 01-03-2009, 01:29 PM

The UH-1 and AH-1 are cheaper, parts commonality is a big plus, and they still work extremely well. Hell, less Cobras have been shot down than Apaches in Iraq. Of course that doesn't mean much without knowing the number of missions each helicopter type has flown. Percentage-wise it could be a different story.

SocketMan · 01-03-2009, 10:19 PM

-interchangeable parts - the ships are big but storage is still limited
-reliability - I don't have the numbers but I would guess ah-64 is less reliable
-$$$$$ it all costs money

-why change it if it ain't broken?

01-03-2009, 07:44 AM	#1
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01-03-2009, 11:28 AM	#2
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