Military technology used in Georgia

[NYgurkha]

I originally heard that phrase was from an autobiography of some German soldier from WWII.

It was meant to be derogatory towards senior officers who dictate the battle plans. Generally describing the incompetence of higher ups, it has nothing to do with politics (this isn't a place for such discussions anyway).

/But the phrase has been used many times, in many different occasions towards many different armies
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[[R-DEV]Dunehunter]

Easy there folks, I'd hate having to ban someone.

[Rezza]

Wow why ban is something racism going on? or whats the problem if i did something wrong sorry though lol xD

[[R-DEV]ZZEZ]

Originally Posted by [MMC] Nosferatu

army regulation

I really doubt they care for army regulation when there are reports of Russian soldiers looting stuff, combat time=no regulation.

[Rezza]

looting wow thats bad combat time must be a regulation and a big regulation to be honest what kind of discipline is this in the army bad

[[R-DEV]Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]ZZEZ

I really doubt they care for army regulation when there are reports of Russian soldiers looting stuff, combat time=no regulation.

What stuff? Any links, evidences?

I've seen photos with South Ossetian militiamen wearing helmets and good NATO boots taken from dead Georgian soldiers, but it doesn't mean Russian army also doing this.

If you ain't got anything except "there are reports" please don't write things like these in theme about military technologies. I just don't know why you mentioned that anyway.

[sakils2]

I really doubt they care for army regulation when there are reports of Russian soldiers looting stuff, combat time=no regulation.

ZZEZ look at you're army instead of the russian army...

[[R-DEV]ZZEZ]

Originally Posted by [MMC] Nosferatu

What stuff? Any links, evidences?

I guess your Russian which is why its hard to accept it, but heres a few links that a 5 seconds search in google turned out
Looting reignites Russia-Georgia tensions - Yahoo! News
Russian troops 'looting homes, shooting people' in Georgia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Georgian villages burned and looted as Russian tanks advance | World news | guardian.co.uk

Finally, the cake - its in Hebrew and I didn't find a proper online translator, but its talking about Russian soldiers robbing 4 Israeli journalists car at gun point
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combat time must be a regulation and a big regulation to be honest what kind of discipline is this in the army bad

I don't think the Russian army is known for its discipline
When you are in real combat, most regulations go to hell specially if they're stupid ones.

[[R-DEV]Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]ZZEZ

I guess your Russian which is why its hard to accept it, but heres a few links that a 5 seconds search in google turned out

I'm surely not idealist since I was witness of Georgian-Abkhazian conflict in early 90s, I know what it's like to be attacked by Georgian forces wanted to "restore constitutional order". And of course I've seen looting and torched buildings, so I won't be surprised if those reports are true and I definitely don't have as much prejudice as you.

Looting reignites Russia-Georgia tensions - Yahoo! News
Russian troops 'looting homes, shooting people' in Georgia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Georgian villages burned and looted as Russian tanks advance | World news | guardian.co.uk

Next time try to google harder.
First article points at some "witness" who said about torching and looting. But what about the fact that

the Georgian police force is set to resume patrolling the town.

? Why they're not reporting to their senior officers and world press about crimes like looting?

Second article copies first one except it's not pointing at any "witness" at all, instead we have this

"Russian tanks have moved into Gori," said Georgia's President Mikheil Saakashvili. "They have destroyed buildings, there has been looting by Russian troops. They were shooting people.

, so maybe mr. Saakashvili was that mysterious witness from first article?

In third article I see this:

"Eyewitnesses say they are looting, killing and burning. These irregulars have killed three people and set fire to villages. They have been taking away young boys and girls," said Harding, watching smoke rise from another village, Karaleti.

Wait a sec, he said about Russian army or irregulars? I guess "these irregulars" means irregulars. How this article can be evidence of Russian army crimes?

BTW, maybe you could find this thing interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

I think time should pass by, investigations must be made and truth will see daylight. Or not.

Finally, the cake - its in Hebrew and I didn't find a proper online translator, but its talking about Russian soldiers robbing 4 Israeli journalists car at gun point

No translation - nothing to discuss.

I don't think the Russian army is known for its discipline
When you are in real combat, most regulations go to hell specially if they're stupid ones.

Ever been in real combat?
And "stupid ones"? Too bad, I thought this discusson is not waste of time.

I wish to thank mods for their patience, I don't want to test it any further by posting offtop.

[[R-DEV]ZZEZ]

Originally Posted by [MMC] Nosferatu

I'm surely not idealist since I was witness of Georgian-Abkhazian conflict in early 90s, I know what it's like to be attacked by Georgian forces wanted to "restore constitutional order". And of course I've seen looting and torched buildings, so I won't be surprised if those reports are true and I definitely don't have as much prejudice as you.

I don't have prejudice, I just see the Russian acts as trying to restore the "old time" Soviet union that lately has been seen as the "good times" in Russian memory.
Seriously, what sort of an argument is "they are killing people with Russian passports" is for invading and destroying a country?as I mentioned before, 1/5 of Israel is Russian[yes..that much!] and vast majority of them have Russian IDs, did Russia invade Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah's ability to fire rockets and supposedly kill Russian citizens?no..?

Next time try to google harder.

Took me 5 seconds?
Russian soldiers in bank job | The Sun |News

No translation - nothing to discuss.

Because if its not in English it doesn't exist?
Well I found it in English including video.
Hot Air Blog Archive Video: Russian soldier shooting Israeli journalists; Update: Open season on reporters?

Ever been in real combat?
And "stupid ones"? Too bad, I thought this discusson is not waste of time.

I wish to thank mods for their patience, I don't want to test it any further by posting offtop.

That would depend on your definition of combat, soldiers vs soldiers?no, soldiers vs terrorists?yes..
I tell you from experience, when shit hits the fan regulations don't exist, only thing that exists is surviving and making sure your enemy won't survive.