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Old 06-07-2008, 06:18 AM   #1

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Trophy "Force Field"

A new advanced protection system that detects incomming missiles and shoots them out of the sky before they hit.

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Old 06-07-2008, 07:34 AM   #2

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omg.ufo technology.quite impressive


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Old 06-07-2008, 07:40 AM   #3
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Trophy is i think quite different from this. Good old british invention this one.

Tanks to get anti-missile ‘force field’ - Times Online

Electrical force field of sorts.

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Old 06-07-2008, 07:45 AM   #4

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Trophy is i think quite different from this. Good old british invention this one.

Tanks to get anti-missile ‘force field’ - Times Online

Electrical force field of sorts.
im doubting thats real.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:58 AM   #5

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omg.ufo technology.quite impressive
The Russian developed a primitive version a decade ago. If you place this in context, it is really not that impressive becuase compact radars have been carried by Fighter Aircraft since WW2 and such radars have been connecting to all manner of weapons fire control systems since WW2 aswell. Lancaster's had something called "village Inn" - 4 - 0.303 MGs linked to a radar - enabling gunners to track and shoot at enemy planes in the dark.
Trophy is really just compact radar linked to a gun but instead of shooting other aircraft, it shoot missiles and rockets.


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im doubting thats real.
It is and the Times would get bear cr*ap from its readers if it wasnt.
See Electric reactive near bottom of the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosi...eactive_armour


It says high elevation but not total strait up protection. Therefore any advanced guided missile that has an top down attack mode might be able penetrate the shield flying almost vertically down, or if not, with some minor modifications.

Future missiles could also be designed to consist of 2 separating sections, where they detach shortly before active protection system fires, so when the protection system fires, it hits the first section of the missile, destroying it but leaving the 2nd section (which contains all the explosive and propellant) to to hit the vehicle.

Although i am sure Active Protection system could extend area they cover to include vertical axis and mabey, to counter the double part missile, fire twise at an incoming missile, to take out both 1st and 2nd part of a missile.


And so the cycle of developing better armour to counter new weapons, then better weapons to counter the new armour continues on........

1 Grab a SAW
2 Find the highest hill/building around a flag
3 Move there, stay there, Spot, call out, attack marker... SAW!
4 For god sake go from high ground to high ground! NOT bottom of a valley to open field to gully!
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the US Army features this as part of the Future Combat System (FCS)

point defence systems have been in the works for ages, very cool system.


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Old 06-07-2008, 08:37 AM   #7

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Good stuff, they could put that on aircraft as well for AA missiles.

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:36 AM   #8

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What bollocks. That video is so misleading. All the force field talk is rubbish.

They just use that to represent the kill radius of the protection system against incoming projectiles. the missile dont impact on an "invisible wall". People are so gullible IT DOESN'T EXIST -----> you can see the trophy system firing as the rpg nears the dome.

It detects incoming projectiles and triggers the unit mounted on that side of the vehicle to fire. The projectiles shred hte incoming missile rendering it harmless/predetonating.

big issue - it can't be reloaded, so concentrated attacks on one aspect of vehicles leaves them exposed. so R&D are looking ata missile based system as improvement.

Trophy has been adopted by IDF already on their merkavas. It isn't anything new, the Russians had Arena and Drozd since the 80's war in afghanistan.

Like with ERA, it is hazardous for accompanying troops for obvious reasons.



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Good stuff, they could put that on aircraft as well for AA missiles.
The system is very crude and extremely short range. It is able to kill antitank missiles since they're subsonic - giving the system plenty of reaction time.

When you turn this to AA missiles that are capable of mach3+....it will eat up the 200yd engagement range much too fast.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:46 PM   #9

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What bollocks. That video is so misleading. All the force field talk is rubbish.

They just use that to represent the kill radius of the protection system against incoming projectiles. the missile dont impact on an "invisible wall". People are so gullible IT DOESN'T EXIST -----> you can see the trophy system firing as the rpg nears the dome.

It detects incoming projectiles and triggers the unit mounted on that side of the vehicle to fire. The projectiles shred hte incoming missile rendering it harmless/predetonating.

big issue - it can't be reloaded, so concentrated attacks on one aspect of vehicles leaves them exposed. so R&D are looking ata missile based system as improvement.

Trophy has been adopted by IDF already on their merkavas. It isn't anything new, the Russians had Arena and Drozd since the 80's war in afghanistan.

Like with ERA, it is hazardous for accompanying troops for obvious reasons.





The system is very crude and extremely short range. It is able to kill antitank missiles since they're subsonic - giving the system plenty of reaction time.

When you turn this to AA missiles that are capable of mach3+....it will eat up the 200yd engagement range much too fast.
i think you are the stupid one here... we all know perfectly well its not a frekkin force field thus the "". And the system is not crude if you had any idea of the intricate works that make this system even operate your head would boil. And no wonder its used by the Israelis ITS THEIR SYSTEM!!!

now before you start throwing dirt at this system consider the option. having a 100% chance of getting hit by a missile to a lets say 50% chance. Which one would you choose?

BTW does anyone here think you can kill a tank with an AA missile?


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What bollocks. That video is so misleading. All the force field talk is rubbish.
Most the stuff featured in the FCS is probably bollox

But the theory is sound, the nice videos an stuff is just to give a good impression.


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