ERA stoping APFSDS rounds ? - Page 2

fludblud · 01-22-2008, 06:06 AM

if cold war era Kontakt 5 could withstand so many AT weapons in NATO's arsenal, including the GAU-8, what are the capabilities of modern day russian tanks like the T90?

i remember someone on this forum complaining that the T90 was unrealistic in PR because "in rl the M1 would kik its ass in 1 shot". looks like mirror balancing isnt so unrealistic after all.

seems like this article also means this forum is gonna have to change its perceptions on russian weps and technology. they may not spend as much but that doesnt mean they cant turn up some amazing stuff.

[R-COM]Outlawz · 01-22-2008, 10:18 AM

Not really, as PR has mirror balanced MBTs, beside the suspicious CR2...

Hotrod525 · 01-22-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Outlawz

Not really, as PR has mirror balanced MBTs, beside the suspicious CR2...

Suspicious !? i run over a mine whitout any probleme whit CR2 (it was may be a bug but i did it )

Try to imagine if they introduce the LEO2A6M...

BTW...Explosive Reactive Armor are used by both NATO and Soviet... but ERA is weak from behind, and cannot resist infinitely... So if a pilot/guner shoot at ERA whit 30mm it will blown then after he just need to trow a missile where he blown ERA and its over.

Javelin, TOW, Hellfire, Maverick, Hydra Rocket, and all other device of this kind will pass out tank crew...

YouTube Video

ERA or not... you'll not survive this.

WNxKenwayy · 01-22-2008, 01:31 PM

Any top attack designed weapon bypasses ERA because no one puts ERA on top of their tanks to my knowledge (again, to my knowledge). Same reason why an a-10 would still rip any tank, modern or otherwise, apart. All it would take is a few rounds to trigger the ERA and the a10 puts out more than a few rounds per target. This is, however, not my field of expertise so I could be mistaken. It doesn't state the actual data, how many rounds per weapon system, where they aimed, etc.

[R-CON]77SiCaRiO77 · 01-22-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M1126 Stryker

Regarding the AT missiles tested I doubt a few dual charge designs such as the TOW-2A were tested.

aocrding to this web side, 3 of 5 shots of a rpg-29 (dual charge) were able to penetrate a t90 with Kontakt-V (witch i supost that is newer than the ones used in the test of the first post) , so if the TOW has more penetration power , iguess that it can penetrete more on newer ERA.

USMC[KILLER] · 01-22-2008, 04:51 PM

what about DU rounds?

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley · 01-22-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by USMC[KILLER]

what about DU rounds?

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Originally Posted by The first post in this thread

When fitted to the T-72A1 and B1 the 'heavy' ERA made them immune to the DU (Depleted Uranium) penetrators of the M829A2 APFSDS (used by the 120 mm guns of the Cold War era US M1 Abrams tanks), which are among the most formidable of current tank gun projectiles.

That is all.

~~M1126 Stryker~~ · 01-22-2008, 10:20 PM

There are some areas on the front particularly on the T-72A/B upgraded with Kontakt-5 that lack ERA coverage.

Sorry that the picture was sideways but it was the best I could find of a T-72B with Kontakt-5.

Hotrod525 · 01-22-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by [R-MOD]Bob_Marley

That is all.

x2 LOL

fludblud · 01-23-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Teek

In my book: claiming is close to propaganda. facts and evidence speak for them selfs.

well then the first post of this thread obviously proved that we should take russian claims a bit more seriously than we do right now.

01-22-2008, 10:18 AM	#12
[R-COM]Outlawz PR Community Event Team Join Date: Feb 2007 Afghanistan Location: Tora Bora Posts: 7,285	Not really, as PR has mirror balanced MBTs, beside the suspicious CR2...
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01-22-2008, 01:31 PM	#14
WNxKenwayy Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 987	Any top attack designed weapon bypasses ERA because no one puts ERA on top of their tanks to my knowledge (again, to my knowledge). Same reason why an a-10 would still rip any tank, modern or otherwise, apart. All it would take is a few rounds to trigger the ERA and the a10 puts out more than a few rounds per target. This is, however, not my field of expertise so I could be mistaken. It doesn't state the actual data, how many rounds per weapon system, where they aimed, etc.
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01-22-2008, 06:06 AM	#11
fludblud Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 447	if cold war era Kontakt 5 could withstand so many AT weapons in NATO's arsenal, including the GAU-8, what are the capabilities of modern day russian tanks like the T90? i remember someone on this forum complaining that the T90 was unrealistic in PR because "in rl the M1 would kik its ass in 1 shot". looks like mirror balancing isnt so unrealistic after all. seems like this article also means this forum is gonna have to change its perceptions on russian weps and technology. they may not spend as much but that doesnt mean they cant turn up some amazing stuff.

01-22-2008, 10:20 PM	#18
~~M1126 Stryker~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA! Posts: 222	There are some areas on the front particularly on the T-72A/B upgraded with Kontakt-5 that lack ERA coverage. Sorry that the picture was sideways but it was the best I could find of a T-72B with Kontakt-5.

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