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Old 12-27-2007, 04:28 AM   #11

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The M16 series aren't that bad, the "Problem" with 'em is you have to clean them after almost everytime you got out (I think).

The real b*tch of the M16 and M4s if you can shoot someone three times in the chest and more, and they won't die, so you gota always make headshots, or right in the center near the heart.

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Old 12-27-2007, 06:33 AM   #12
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The real b*tch of the M16 and M4s if you can shoot someone three times in the chest and more, and they won't die, so you gota always make headshots, or right in the center near the heart.
first of all, that's more of a problem with the FMJ rounds used. But expanding bullets aren't allowed on the battlefield, so you have to use FMJ.
And yeah, sometimes you will survive multiple shots. Sometimes you are gone from one.

And that exactly same problem would have been there with the XM-8 too. It uses the same bullets. That being said I still think that they should have stayed with the 7.62x51mm or started using 7.62x39mm.


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Old 12-27-2007, 06:51 AM   #13

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possibly becuase compared with the Em-2: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as59-e.htm it was thoroughly out dated with a weapon designed 60 years ago.

It was going to fire a 7x43mm round but this was ofcourse ridiculously underpowered in the 1950s and ridiculously overpowered in the 1960s, therefore resulting in the creation of 2 far from perfect rounds, the 5.56by45 and 7.62by51.

So why not continue the tradition of purchasing far from perfect rounds and weapons Mr creepinshadow24/7...

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Old 12-27-2007, 09:40 AM   #14

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they are continuing with the OICW programme thought aren't they??

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Old 12-27-2007, 10:45 AM   #15
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The M16 series aren't that bad, the "Problem" with 'em is you have to clean them after almost everytime you got out (I think).

The real b*tch of the M16 and M4s if you can shoot someone three times in the chest and more, and they won't die, so you gota always make headshots, or right in the center near the heart.
For god sake man get your facts straight. The XM-8 still uses 5.56 NATO rounds just like the M4 and M16 so your point is moot. The gun is not the lethal part, it's the bullets.

Now the M468, that's a different story.

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Old 12-27-2007, 12:15 PM   #16

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i don't think cause of the cost, the US military spends 553.10 billion $ per year on their military, thats more than any other country does

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It's only 4% of our GDP.

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Now the M468, that's a different story.
Good luck on getting mass production on the 6.8 round. Remington doesn't even support the 6.8 commercially.
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:30 PM   #17

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what the xm-8 melted in desert test where did it say that?
does any1 know what the army thinks about the mp7 pdw? I mean pilots shud get them ( I mean in pr) as well as the hat, it is wearable like a pistol so y not replace the 92 FS with a mp7 on the heavier kits + pilot ?

The m468 is a mix of m4 and m16 that uses 6. Something rounds.


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Old 12-27-2007, 07:13 PM   #18

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weyy indeed, G36 and G3 are said to be EXTREMELY reliable weapons.

anyone think the M468 looks like the gun of killzone???

look:
M468:



killzone:



lol

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Old 12-27-2007, 07:52 PM   #19

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The M16 series aren't that bad, the "Problem" with 'em is you have to clean them after almost everytime you got out (I think).

The real b*tch of the M16 and M4s if you can shoot someone three times in the chest and more, and they won't die, so you gota always make headshots, or right in the center near the heart.
Not sure if you are in the USMC or not, but if you are and have fired the M16, you will know that it is real easy to shoot and most any Marine or Soldier could get a headshot or at least a mid bodyshot with it. I am not the best shooter with it and I can still get good groupings and shots from it.


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Old 12-27-2007, 08:00 PM   #20
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weyy indeed, G36 and G3 are said to be EXTREMELY reliable weapons.

anyone think the M468 looks like the gun of killzone???

look:
M468:



killzone:



lol
Ahh... NO. The M468 visibly looks exactly like any M16 type rifle, with the notable differences such as S.I.R. handguard, thicker barrel, gass tube, flip-up iron sights, and a modified lower receiver to accept the 6.8mm rounds (of course the inside is anotehr story). Only the red dot sight installed looks like the "killzone" rifle you are referring to and the red dot sight is not part of the weapon, it's a mounted accessory. If anything the handguard on the killzone rifle looks more like the one on the LR300.

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