invisible tanks ??? - Page 2

Hides-His-Eyes · 10-30-2007, 03:47 PM

Daily Mail is a pretty ghastly source. =)

gazzthompson · 10-30-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by [R-MOD]Wasteland

Right. That's really the only amazing part. I mean, to be able to project the image of something onto a tank well enough to hide the tank for one demonstration featuring a single point of view isn't really anything all that special. If they can take this further, then yeah, that would be groundbreaking.

it already is ground breaking !!! if the tanks are lying up in a position, who need cammo netting ?? go invisible ! and one demonstration featuring a single point of view ? im sorry , was u there ?? there was no mention to how many views were present how many demonstrations were demonstrated or anything of the kind , unless u have another source ?

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Originally Posted by Hides-His-Eyes

Daily Mail is a pretty ghastly source. =)

google it , its in every news company , take ur pick

The_motivator · 10-30-2007, 03:56 PM

gazz, judging from the way the technology appears to work, and almost impossibility of a shifting view as the viewer moves around the object, makes it seem likely that the tank stayed stationary, or at the very least kept the single side facing the observers as it clanked past.

It would take thousands of cameras and fiber optics to change the view to suit an individual.

Also thinking about the amount of heat a tank generates, it seems like a rock-paper-scissor scenario... "I've got invisible tanks!" "i've got thermal imaging..."

[R-MOD]Wasteland · 10-30-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gazzthompson

it already is ground breaking !!! if the tanks are lying up in a position, who need cammo netting ?? go invisible ! and one demonstration featuring a single point of view ? im sorry , was u there ?? there was no mention to how many views were present how many demonstrations were demonstrated or anything of the kind , unless u have another source ?

1) You can't just go invisible, because of the PoV problem.

2) They described how it works. They have cameras taking images behind the tank, and then they project this image onto the tank from the other side. This is not groundbreaking. This would not possibly work from multiple angles. For that you would need millions of fiberoptic cables with millions of very sophisticated lenses, and some sort of system to amplify all the light involved independantly, to varying degrees. That's an amazing amount of processing power, not even considering the more mundane problems this would bring up.

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Originally Posted by The_motivator

Also thinking about the amount of heat a tank generates, it seems like a rock-paper-scissor scenario... "I've got invisible tanks!" "i've got thermal imaging..."

Thermal imaging doesn't work at the same range as normal optics though, right?

The_motivator · 10-30-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by [R-MOD]Wasteland

Thermal imaging doesn't work at the same range as normal optics though, right?

FLIR could also pick it up.. Infrared not being the same as thermal, but there's not much a tank could employ on its own to prevent a UAV or high-altitude spy plane equipped with thermal/FLIR from picking it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oxpBCed26o

range 4-5km apparantly

edit- i'm an idiot, flir = thermal d'oh.

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley · 10-30-2007, 04:14 PM

Yes... Yes...

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markonymous · 10-30-2007, 05:10 PM

thats a pretty idiotic way to make something invisible if u ask me. the whole reason anyone sees anything is because of light getting reflected. Bend the light and u see nothing. There are better materials on the way to make things invisible that are made up of materials specially made to bend light. So pretty much invisibility cloth :P. And why not cover the tank in mirrors that would make it hard to spot and pinpoint while its moving. Certainly allot cheaper.

edit: the bending light also covers heat imaging because what u are actually detecting with the thermal camera is infrared light. So it bends infrared light to. Problem solved we got totally invisible tanks.(unless u have a sonar then the tank is screwed)

pasfreak · 10-30-2007, 08:51 PM

you know, I woke up this morning to some great british comedy.

but now that everyone seems to believe it....

hm....

solodude23 · 10-30-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saqaali

omg. hows that even possible :O

Try reading the article.

[R-DEV]Undies · 10-31-2007, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by markonymous

thats a pretty idiotic way to make something invisible if u ask me. the whole reason anyone sees anything is because of light getting reflected. Bend the light and u see nothing. There are better materials on the way to make things invisible that are made up of materials specially made to bend light. So pretty much invisibility cloth :P. And why not cover the tank in mirrors that would make it hard to spot and pinpoint while its moving. Certainly allot cheaper.

Sounds easy, why dont you invent it and make a million quid?

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The_motivator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 600	gazz, judging from the way the technology appears to work, and almost impossibility of a shifting view as the viewer moves around the object, makes it seem likely that the tank stayed stationary, or at the very least kept the single side facing the observers as it clanked past. It would take thousands of cameras and fiber optics to change the view to suit an individual. Also thinking about the amount of heat a tank generates, it seems like a rock-paper-scissor scenario... "I've got invisible tanks!" "i've got thermal imaging..."
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10-30-2007, 05:10 PM	#17
markonymous Join Date: Oct 2007 Sweden Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 1,452	thats a pretty idiotic way to make something invisible if u ask me. the whole reason anyone sees anything is because of light getting reflected. Bend the light and u see nothing. There are better materials on the way to make things invisible that are made up of materials specially made to bend light. So pretty much invisibility cloth :P. And why not cover the tank in mirrors that would make it hard to spot and pinpoint while its moving. Certainly allot cheaper. edit: the bending light also covers heat imaging because what u are actually detecting with the thermal camera is infrared light. So it bends infrared light to. Problem solved we got totally invisible tanks.(unless u have a sonar then the tank is screwed)
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10-30-2007, 08:51 PM	#18
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