british army body armour question

[Mouse]

I know that they have that new body armour to use in desert, kestrel i think its called? anyway, what type of armour do they use in woodland, is it a big arour system thing covering the whole torso, or, is it something different, beacuse when i look at Britsh soldiers in woodland, they are just wearing their webbing.


PS sorry bout the title being mis spelt.

[[R-DEV]Gaz]

Osprey & Kestrel.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img007ew6.jpg

I'd assume we have woodland covers for it too.

[Prydain]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Gaz

Osprey & Kestrel.

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img007ew6.jpg

I'd assume we have woodland covers for it too.

I doubt the optional sholder pads are favoured, where are you going to sholder your rifle? The small pouch on the back is silly if you are a mechanized lad, sitting down with somthing in it would either hurt you or squash it and wearing a burgen means it it is unneeded.

I think they probably have woodland coloured ones, they may be rarer because we mostly fight in the middle eastern theater. Remember at the start of Telic, not everyone had a desert DPM smock or desert DPM armour.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

Any idea how many 7.62mm rounds it can stop?

I know it is meant to only be an absolute last resort but sometimes one might find them self in a situation where they need quite a few last resorts!

Weight????????

How does combat vests/ webbing fit over this because it already looks so bulky? From the pic i cant see a soldier easily carrying 12 SA80 mags!

[00SoldierofFortune00]

Originally Posted by Prydain

I doubt the optional sholder pads are favoured, where are you going to sholder your rifle? The small pouch on the back is silly if you are a mechanized lad, sitting down with somthing in it would either hurt you or squash it and wearing a burgen means it it is unneeded.

I think they probably have woodland coloured ones, they may be rarer because we mostly fight in the middle eastern theater. Remember at the start of Telic, not everyone had a desert DPM smock or desert DPM armour.

US Army soldiers have those same shoulder pads and it doesn't stop them from operating. And the pouch is probably for extra magazines or whatever you can put back there. And I doubt the little pouch is going to put any extra weight on a soldier's back.

[ReadMenace]

Originally Posted by Prydain

I doubt the optional sholder pads are favoured, where are you going to sholder your rifle? The small pouch on the back is silly if you are a mechanized lad, sitting down with somthing in it would either hurt you or squash it and wearing a burgen means it it is unneeded.

I think they probably have woodland coloured ones, they may be rarer because we mostly fight in the middle eastern theater. Remember at the start of Telic, not everyone had a desert DPM smock or desert DPM armour.

Notice that those pouches are attached w/ PALS webbing, which allows a soldier to customize their load.

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[[R-DEV]Undies]

I have yet to see either of those be issued to anywhere out of theatre at the moment. The standard issue body armour is still used in woodland.

http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/is...opscr1652.html

[Prydain]

Originally Posted by 00SoldierofFortune00

US Army soldiers have those same shoulder pads and it doesn't stop them from operating. And the pouch is probably for extra magazines or whatever you can put back there. And I doubt the little pouch is going to put any extra weight on a soldier's back.

I did not say the pouch will do anything to add weight, I just meant that it is an unneeded pouch that does not need to be advertised because its useless.

Notice that those pouches are attached w/ PALS webbing, which allows a soldier to customize their load.

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I know that, at no point did I state that they where fixed, you assumed I didn't know.

[[R-DEV]Gaz]

Originally Posted by Prydain

I did not say the pouch will do anything to add weight, I just meant that it is an unneeded pouch that does not need to be advertised because its useless.

Originally Posted by Prydain

I know that, at no point did I state that they where fixed, you assumed I didn't know.

Read your second quote and you'll have answered your own question. It's removable. Handy as it's always there to be used. We don't always tab about with bergens on...

Regarding the shoulder protection, that's removable too. In my view it's really up to the bod on the ground to decide what parts he'll be wearing today. During TELIC1 I usually didn't wear any body armour as front line infantry out of choice. The threat has changed quite a bit, so if I were depolyed there again I'd be wearing the majority of the new kit.

[00SoldierofFortune00]

Originally Posted by Prydain

I did not say the pouch will do anything to add weight, I just meant that it is an unneeded pouch that does not need to be advertised because its useless.

LOL, if it can carry extra magazines or gear without being cumbersome, then it is not "useless."