Is there an M1A3 Abrams tank in the works? Army Times: Army looks to update Abrams

[Aljen]

So this is not a new tank just a new general upgrade or not?
Something similar to T-72 -> T-90 (although T-90 is completely new from 60% or more) or more like T-80 -> T-80UM1/T-84 style?

Is there some completely new US concept like russian T-95?

[Thunder]

i thought the t-84 was a upgraded T-72 used by bloc forces

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Originally Posted by agentscar

The FN2000 is an electric battery powered gun that isn't ready for combat yet

Slovenia Disagrees

Thunder, IIRC the T-84 is a Ukrainian upgrade of the T-80 that first appeared in the mid '90s. You might be thinking of the Yugoslav M84, which is very similar to the T-72.

[Aljen]

No T-84 Oplot is ukrainian upgraded T-80UD version. Completely different tank then T-72

http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/t84.php?menu=m1.php

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

Originally Posted by agentscar

The FN2000 is an electric battery powered gun that isn't ready for combat yet,so trying to make an electric engine for an Abrams is even more harder to make.And wtf,the U.S. ARMY has never said anything about retiring the Abrams,it's the best in the world,they've never said that...That copy and pasted article that was first posted is soooo wierd...

Good catch.
The Army Times is always lying about things.
Glad we have an expert like you to correct us.
I thought the Challenger was considered the "best in the world".
Electric engines and remote piloting may be just a few more days in the planning ...eh ?

[ryan d ale]

Just because someone mentioned this earlier in the thread I will pass in information which may be useful too. I have a friend who works for BAE and he said that "fully Autonomous Combat Systems are illegal". I think it must have been signed under some treaty. I think I heard something about the UAV/UCAV taking some flack for this but the exceptions were primarily - War on Terror and that is REMOTE as oppposed to automated.

Although Im sure a few countries have and are researching automated prototypes.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

They have a remotely operated mini tracked vehicle that can carry MGs and rocket launchers and supposedly it is being fielded in Iraw now.
That robot stuff will quickly become outdated and the treaty changed or simply ignored.
There is no way that people will want a US soldier to die instead of a robot to satisft some treaty or agreement.

[Bullseye]

one of the downsides of the gas turbine engine is that it has to be refueled every 4 hours, while a diesel engine can go on for 24 hours

[TexLax]

so i hear that the abrams is the best tank in the world...

but i also here that the challenger is the best in the world...

so which one is it?

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