Shoot-out at Blackwater {weapon info}

[defqon]

2005 Shoot-out at Blackwater

oke the 2005 Shoot-out at Blackwater is here but
first check uit the blackwater 2003 video's and the 2004 video's


whit gun info over the XM8, F2000, CheyTac408, M14 EBR, Barrett M468 ,
AA-12, HK416, COBB BA(50)T, LMT MRP and more


http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/blackwater/

[Doug97]

Ah, be interesting to see how the F2000 fares ...

[Beckwith]

yea i saw the highlights from this event last year which is when i discovered they CheyTac among others

last year they had the new M-60, P-90, FN2000 i think, and some thing on blended metal amunition that was actually pretty interesting

[uglygun]

blended metal bullets, bleh.

Mark my words, that bullet maker will fade into obscurity within another year or two. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen one of the Lemas BMT represenatives get his junk science handed to him on other forums. Every claim they have made has been hotly contested, including the miraculous Navy SEAL "butt shot".

The wounding mechanic of their bullets is the result of two things, very light fragile bullet construction combined with very high velocities.

Ever wonder why a M193 55grn bullet can pierce through 1/4 inch mild steel plate? It's simply a matter of velocity, at close range the 55grn M193 bullet is actually superior to the 62grn M855 bullet thanks to the velocity advantage to the 55grn bullet.

This is how Lemas has managed to make "armor piercing" handgun rounds, simply drop the weight and bump the velocity. Soft body armor that is designed to marginally stop a 230grn 45ACP at 850fps isn't going to cope with something like a 100grn bullet traveling at 1500fps.

Then there's the wound profile that is discussed on the blackwater site, "large temporary cavities" are generally argued as not being the prefered wound cavity. The wound cavity that you want to try to maximize is the permanent cavity, this is the area where tissue is so badly destroyed that it is missing or ruined beyond repair.

The BMT rounds are great at killing potroast because the temporary stretch cavity they are creating is larger in diameter than the potroast itself. I see this ALL the time out shooting squirrels with my 223Remington, the Vmax rounds are creating a temp stretch cavity of around 6-7 inches or more but the little vermin is only 4-5 inches in diameter. The result is the confined vessel of the squirrel winds up popping in a rather grotesque fashion often times releasing pressurized squirrel bits all over the hill side.

These same miraculous varmint exploding bullets are often argued to have minimal penetration and less than preferable charcteristics for defensive or even offensive shooting scenarios, reason being the bullets may not penetrate deeply enough to reach vitals in cross torso shots or after traveling through a limb.

The BMT bullets are not "smart bullets" that can tell the differences between a piece of meat or a piece of metal, it's junk science through and through with a healthy dose of marketing.