General Interest - KRISS Super V 45 ACP SMG - Page 3

[TW]Fox · 09-15-2005, 04:46 PM

doesnt look like the feelable recoil has been reduced a lot to me, the shooters seem to move a hell of a lot

Mad Max · 09-25-2005, 09:23 AM

To be honest a weapon that size wouldn't really need iron sights, or even a scope really. Also the biggest problem is... where the hell are you going to put it? It looks like it'd be one hell of a pain in the arse to holster.

TR · 09-25-2005, 09:27 AM

I would imagine this one would be for a tac sling as I can't imagine what a holster would like for this oddity... can you imagine what the reaction of the guy next to you would be on the range when you brought it out? You never get a chance to shoot it.

Evil Koala · 09-25-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by [TW]Fox

doesnt look like the feelable recoil has been reduced a lot to me, the shooters seem to move a hell of a lot

Have you ever fired anything full-auto? Most weapons have a tendency to climb from recoil. That one seems to push straight back, allowing the firer to stay on target. Watch the end of the video.. Thats quite a good group for fully automatic fire at 800-1200rpm (sounds closer to 1200rpm)

TR · 09-25-2005, 11:50 PM

Very true... having fired an M-16A1 on full auto I can attest to the fact that the blasted thing just kept going up not back... making it damn near impossibile to hit a simple glass bottle in a creek at 75 yards. If the weapon does what the manufacturer claims the weapon may not go anywhere (I mean 45 caliber subguns are not in vogue at the moment) but the technology it represents will be of interest to many.

worst 3 · 09-26-2005, 12:13 AM

yea I would push back, look at where the barrel is located compared to similar guns, usually the barrel is more to the top of the gun. this gun is in the middle if not slightly lower. I would think that when you shoot the force of the guns shooting would be more toward the top pushing the gun up. this gun is in the middle pushing it straight back. interesting but don’t think it would be a good idea for rifles because the barrel is not long. I would be really long with a full sized barrel and stock like that of a rifle.

i would like to see it shoot with the grip and triger lowerd 3 inches i think it would climb more.

dcheng7475 · 09-30-2005, 10:57 PM

after watch the video, it feels like a P90 smg

uglygun · 09-30-2005, 11:45 PM

Finally, a gun that is uglier than the awful creations of HiPoint Firearms....

DAWG · 09-30-2005, 11:50 PM

It's not really designed for precision. It's an interesting concept for dealing with recoil, but I can't really see it going into service. Can you imagine a platoon of guys entering combat and having to fight the gun to gain forward momentum. They solved one problem, the kick, however the laws of physics state equal / opposite you know what I mean. Using that on uneven terrain in a fire fight would be suicide, fun but suicide, you'd spend more time on your arse than fighting.

Evil Koala · 10-01-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWG

It's not really designed for precision. It's an interesting concept for dealing with recoil, but I can't really see it going into service. Can you imagine a platoon of guys entering combat and having to fight the gun to gain forward momentum. They solved one problem, the kick, however the laws of physics state equal / opposite you know what I mean. Using that on uneven terrain in a fire fight would be suicide, fun but suicide, you'd spend more time on your arse than fighting.

Umm.... okay..

09-26-2005, 12:13 AM	#26
worst 3 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long island Ny Posts: 253	yea I would push back, look at where the barrel is located compared to similar guns, usually the barrel is more to the top of the gun. this gun is in the middle if not slightly lower. I would think that when you shoot the force of the guns shooting would be more toward the top pushing the gun up. this gun is in the middle pushing it straight back. interesting but don’t think it would be a good idea for rifles because the barrel is not long. I would be really long with a full sized barrel and stock like that of a rifle. i would like to see it shoot with the grip and triger lowerd 3 inches i think it would climb more.

	Last edited by worst 3; 09-26-2005 at 12:21 AM..

09-30-2005, 10:57 PM	#27
dcheng7475 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	after watch the video, it feels like a P90 smg
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09-30-2005, 11:45 PM	#28
uglygun Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 48	Finally, a gun that is uglier than the awful creations of HiPoint Firearms....
uglygun Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 48

09-30-2005, 11:50 PM	#29
DAWG Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 236	It's not really designed for precision. It's an interesting concept for dealing with recoil, but I can't really see it going into service. Can you imagine a platoon of guys entering combat and having to fight the gun to gain forward momentum. They solved one problem, the kick, however the laws of physics state equal / opposite you know what I mean. Using that on uneven terrain in a fire fight would be suicide, fun but suicide, you'd spend more time on your arse than fighting.
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09-15-2005, 04:46 PM	#21
[TW]Fox Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: brighton, england Posts: 36	doesnt look like the feelable recoil has been reduced a lot to me, the shooters seem to move a hell of a lot

09-25-2005, 09:23 AM	#22
Mad Max Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ye Olde England Posts: 574	To be honest a weapon that size wouldn't really need iron sights, or even a scope really. Also the biggest problem is... where the hell are you going to put it? It looks like it'd be one hell of a pain in the arse to holster.

09-25-2005, 09:27 AM	#23
TR Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 307	I would imagine this one would be for a tac sling as I can't imagine what a holster would like for this oddity... can you imagine what the reaction of the guy next to you would be on the range when you brought it out? You never get a chance to shoot it.

09-25-2005, 11:50 PM	#25
TR Retired PR Developer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 307	Very true... having fired an M-16A1 on full auto I can attest to the fact that the blasted thing just kept going up not back... making it damn near impossibile to hit a simple glass bottle in a creek at 75 yards. If the weapon does what the manufacturer claims the weapon may not go anywhere (I mean 45 caliber subguns are not in vogue at the moment) but the technology it represents will be of interest to many.

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