China....

[PlayPR!]

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as79-e.htm

Chinese reverse engineering at its worst... How could they do this and copy one of the longest service worthy guns, they already have their own copied AK so now they take the US's M-16... I'm ticked off...

If I posted in the wrong section feel free to move it.

Oh by the way maybe this could be Chinas new engineers Personal Defence Weapon?
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg74-e.htm

[Griffon2-6]

I support the fact that China is doing this. What's wrong with that, is there any copyright law saying they couldn't? And the SMG is being taken out in PRMM 0.4, so there's no point in asking. I also like the Type 03, should be better than what they have for Type 95 right now.

And the M311-1 is not used by the PLA, it is being sold. The PLA still prefers Russian design weapons. Why? Gee, I don't know.

[Ghostrider]

Originally Posted by Griffon2-6

The PLA still prefers Russian design weapons. Why? Gee, I don't know.

Maybe because russian-made weapons (like the AK series) are some of the most (if not the most) reliable weapons available. It will shoot under very adverse conditions... In fact, vietman-era soldiers often dropped their issued M-16s as soon as they were able to grab an AK-47..


-Ghost

[PlayPR!]

Originally Posted by Griffon2-6

I support the fact that China is doing this. What's wrong with that, is there any copyright law saying they couldn't? And the SMG is being taken out in PRMM 0.4, so there's no point in asking. I also like the Type 03, should be better than what they have for Type 95 right now.

I know its just the fact that China is doing this and making clones of other countries weaponry instead of buying it direct from the country or they could make their own next-gen weapons. That PDW that I put in there though, that is an awsome looking and tiny Chinese SMG I aplaud them for that peice of work.
I guess I'm just a mini-capitalist who wants the makers of the weapon to earn the money they so rightly deserve for making things that can withstand so much.

[Thunder]

if you dont like that pic of backwards engineering i wouldnt look to deeply at some of the other things they backward engineered.

[Griffon2-6]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Ghostrider

Maybe because russian-made weapons (like the AK series) are some of the most (if not the most) reliable weapons available. It will shoot under very adverse conditions... In fact, vietman-era soldiers often dropped their issued M-16s as soon as they were able to grab an AK-47..


-Ghost

I was being sarcastic. I know how reliable the Russian weapons are due to their simplicity in design, and if used right, can probably be more useful than an M16 variant.

Originally Posted by PlayPRMM!

I know its just the fact that China is doing this and making clones of other countries weaponry instead of buying it direct from the country or they could make their own next-gen weapons. That PDW that I put in there though, that is an awsome looking and tiny Chinese SMG I aplaud them for that peice of work.
I guess I'm just a mini-capitalist who wants the makers of the weapon to earn the money they so rightly deserve for making things that can withstand so much.

Do you actually think the US would let China buy their weapons?

[PlayPR!]

Originally Posted by Griffon2-6

Do you actually think the US would let China buy their weapons?

Well uh... Good point...

[Griffon2-6]

Exactly. That is why China reverse-engineers everything.

[lonelyjew]

Those chinese excuses for m-16 are probably crap quality wise. My cousin was telling me how if you get an AK that there are many levels of quality depending on the nation that manufactured it with Russia generally having the highest quality and China having poor quality. If those guns are only for sale and the PLA won't even touch them I don't think I'm going too far in assuming that they aren't machined with the care Colt gives to it's guns.

That pdw reminds me of the Russian Bison: http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg08-e.htm

[Griffon2-6]

No, lonelyjew, you're wrong. The Middle East has the worst quality, along with some former Soviet satellite states. And the M311 is based off the M16A1. The M311 carbine would probably be better though, as it is based off the M4A1.