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"Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
Interesting little study which is probably going to raise a lot of other issues
And a nice reminder of how its rules rather then means that keep the fine line of personal privacy from being crossed. Quote:
- Cell phone users secretly tracked in study - CNN.com | |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
Comparing the use of public observation and a private device such as a cell phone is definitely different. Since it is a private contract with a company them giving away even anonymous statistics about me is wrong. All studies that involve private behavior has to be consensual. Besides it could set a precedent. The more companies feel comfortable sharing this the more the government could feel comfortable pressing them for it.
I remember seeing a documentary on the NSA where former employees of AT&T (if I recall correctly) witnessed the construction and the use of a special room inside of AT&T buildings where NSA members were admitted and allowed unfiltered access to raw internet information. So basically anything anyone was doing through that ISP was available to the NSA. No court orders, no review, no individual warrants for monitoring, just unlimited observation of anyone that had internet with that company routed through that server cluster. Thats information so confidential that people who work right next to the room weren't allowed in or had similar access. Since this technology is changing so much and is still a very new frontier of human development I think that we ought to really play it safe and conservative when it comes to this kind of privacy since the precedents we set today will affect how we draft newer laws about it tomorrow. And our attitudes are even more important. If we become accustomed to the government sifting through our private behavior then we'll be less reactive to subtle and quiet attempts to slide the scale in favour of less privacy. As for the study itself I think that people don't stray too far cause we work usually with in about 6 miles of home. And when I leave my area code I'm not usually making calls on that phone. |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
I think most if not all modern cell phones are gps equipped, why? In case you drive off a cliff or get lost of course. (sarcasm) So your privacy is already gone, thats the choice you make by owning a cell phone. The only thing this study does it to tell you/show you that your movement can easily be tracked, usually people are oblivious to this fact and ignorance is bliss. Many police departments in the USA are tied into the cell phone networks and can find your current location on a map. Cell phones just like a computer on a network that is turned off can be turned on by remote, unless you pull the battery.
Maybe if more people realized they can be tracked by their phone they would do something about it, but people really don't care about their privacy or the principal of it anymore. That NSA splitter thing isn't just in AT&T data centers, it's in most if not all provider data centers, which is another reason why they want retro active immunity for phone companies and the administration on wire tapping. |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
Welcome to the future.
Do you need a grief counselor or will a box of tissues do ? |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
Do you know that you can be listened to in your home (or any building) talking? Yep. They have special directional type spy mics and also I've heard of lazers which amplify acoustical sounds as well. Don't worry though as long as you are a 'good citizen' you don't have to worry. Total control society. Maybe one day I can get that brainwave "streamliner" I've always wanted so impure thoughts can be "deleted" or prevented in the first place. Where can I buy some 3ft by 5ft posters of Stalin to hang on my walls? Yes I'm being melodramatic but this is how things start. If you cook a frog slowly he will die in the pot...if you throw him directly into boiling water he will realize what's happening and try to escape. Humans are STUPID STUPID creatures. For all our ability to invent our capacity to understand our nature is pathetic.
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
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Frankly, I couldn't care less if people know where I am all the time. I do nothing I should be afraid of letting the authorities know about; as long as they don't interfere in my life, they can know what they damned well like about me. | |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
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You might care if 'they' was your land lord and was watching your wife/Gf/Daughter in their home, unknown to them, because 'they' can, But that is only if you know 'they' are doing it, ignorance is bliss. | |
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
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The original gun freak gaymer geek
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Re: "Cell phone users secretly tracked in study"
Put a simple window fan in and the vibration will make laser eavesdropping impossible.
Unless they have the ability to screen out that vibration, in which case you are being surveilled by top notch people and you are in deep excrement. So lean a cheap radio on the window. Then they can't hear you, especially if you keep scanning different channels. The tech has the potential for abuse, but so what doesn't ? If you rock the boat too much you will get thrown overboard, nothing original about that. |
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