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Old 01-04-2008, 08:41 PM   #1

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Iowa Caucus Results

For all interested.

First state (Iowa) held caucuses yesterday and was the first state to do so as part of the 2008 Presidential Primaries.

Results:

For the Democrats: 45 Potential Delegates
1st. Barack Obama (38%) 16 Delegates
2nd John Edwards (30%) 15 Delegates
3rd Hillary Clinton (29%) 14 Delegates
4th Bill Richardson (2%)
5th Joe Biden (1%)
All others did not receive over 1%

Since the Caucus, Senators Joe Biden and Chris Dodd have left the race

Republicans: 37 Potential Delegates
1st. Mike Huckabee (34%) 17 Delegates
2nd Mitt Romney (25%) 12 Delegates
4th Fred Thomspon (13%) 3 Delegates
5th John McCain (13%) 3 Delegates
6th Ron Paul (10%) 2 Delegates
7th Rudy Giuliani (4%)
8th Duncan Hunter (1%)

Viper's Analysis:
Democratic Side: Good news for Obama Camp going into New Hampshire as it will be another tight race. Polls showed candidates voting for change, another plus for Obama. Still pretty wide open for the big 2 (Clinton and Obama) although also a good showing by Edwards.

Republican Side: Disappointing results for Romney, who is now facing an uphill battle. Good news for Huckabee due to the win, but IMO the biggest winner herewas McCain, who managed to gain 3 Delegates in a state he really didnt bother with, and is also riding a high going into the crucial New Hampshire Primaries, which is expected to be a neck and neck race between Romney and McCain. Also good news for Giuliani, whose strategy to not place as much emphasis on earlier states may indeed pay off if he can survive through to the latter rounds and score key victories in states he is actively campaigning in.

Upcoming Primaries:
January 5th- Wyoming Caucuses
January 8th- New Hampshire Primaries
February 5th- Super Tuesday


Viper's Predictions for New Hampshire Primaries

Republicans:
1. John McCain
2. Mitt Romney
3. Rudy Giuliani
4. Fred Thompson
5. Ron Paul
6. Mike Huckabee

Democrats:
1. Hillary Clinton
2. Barack Obama
3. John Edwards
4. Bill Richardson
5. Who cares? Its Kucinich or Gravel :P


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Old 01-05-2008, 03:05 AM   #3
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Hilary has allot of explaining to do as to why she didnt win Iowa, and if you listened to Edwards speech it sounded like a victory speech because well, he beat Hilary.


It seems that she democratic party has been good to the Clinton's, but the Clinton's have not been good to the party.

My GOP predictions:
McCain
Romney
Paul
Guiliani
Huckaby
Thompson

Dems:
Clinton
Obama
Edwards
Biden
Richardson


Why i think i am right:
Even though i am not even eligible to vote, i have been interested in politics for as long as i can remember, i have NEVER picked a candidate who didnt win in any real elections, hell my parents said that in '92 when they asked me "bush or Clinton" i said Clinton.

I spend a large majority of my time reading about politics, and analysizing them, i am a reporter at my school, and i wish to major in political science and get my JD in political law.


But enough about me;

Currently, in the DEMs, they have their golden boy running, Obama, and a large majority of the party is rooting for him to win, and to an extent even the independents. However the Clinton, has the cash, she has a former president as a husband, and she has the experienced campaign staff that can pull it off, all that Obama has seems to be opera. Then you have Edwards the white trial attorney who "loves" the poor even though he has a mansion next to a trailer park. However after beating Hilary he has the momentum to keep things going well into New Hampshire.

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In the Grand Ole Party there is something strange going on, the republicans haven't seen this kind of action in a primary since the 30's. Normally what they do is pick a nice electable, Christian, governor and then they size him up to win the election. However its not happening this time.

Huckaby surprised me when he won Iowa, but i do not believe that he has campaigned hard enough to win New Hampshire. Romney, being a former New England Governor has better win in New Hampshire or else he is axed, Guiliani said that he will start campaigning in the Florida Caucuses, so really nothing there. Mccain, has worked his ass of in NH and he will should get the win, he message is resonating the people of NH.

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Old 01-05-2008, 04:56 PM   #4

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Yeah only reason Huckabee won Iowa is because of the extremely large evangelical community who like Huckabee because he's a minister and dislike Romney because he is Mormon, which is (incorrectly) assumed to be a cult.


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Old 01-05-2008, 10:52 PM   #5

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Mormon, which is (incorrectly) assumed to be a cult.
Actually one of the coolest people on the face of the planet, Howard Tayler, is a mormon. So I totally agree with you on that one.

I meant to look these up before this, but then there was this nicely put together thread. Thanks viper.

Personally I'm going to be voting dem in 2008, and my top choice is basically either Clinton or Obama. I have looked at both of their platforms, and while I have issues with both, I'm not really looking to elect myself. So given that the 2 front runners are my top two choices, I'm gonna sit back and relax.

It will be very interesting to see how competitive the republican nomination for president is. A strong base in the midwest, but a lot of outcry over the Bush administration. Even candidates who have distanced themselves from Bush are still going to have his choices affecting them.

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Just something to think about...

What will the President/Vice President combinations be?

If Obama wins:

Obama/Clinton, Obama/Edwards ??

What do you think it'll be?

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Old 01-06-2008, 12:02 AM   #7
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I don't think that is possible given the nature of teh candidates and I doubt either one would want to play second fiddle.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:07 AM   #8

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If I'm a democrat and I win the nod, I go across the table to McCain if he doesnt. Unbeatable ticket and unlike 2004 I think he'd be willing.

Obama/Biden would also be very strong.


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Old 01-06-2008, 12:26 AM   #9

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As you should.

I thought they all did fairly well tonite at the debate tonite. Anyone watch?

Too bad Bill Richardson is so lacking support.
He seems like the least 'conventional political hack.'
Now there's a guy I could have a beer with, and feel confident that he could get some things done. As it stands now, I think Obama will get the nod, in which case I think I could be ok with.

Edwards is passionate, but something about him sort of bothers me.


On the repub side, the only one who has a chance is Huckabee.
Fred Thompson? puhlease. that guy is so very tired--he's probably the next viable candidate to drop out.

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Old 01-06-2008, 02:10 AM   #10

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McCain all the way.

its time to piss the world off some more when we kick out the village idiot and put in the village war veteran psycho.
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