North Way, Pole and Ressource; Cold War 2 ?

Hotrod525 · 12-26-2007, 04:40 PM

Whit the climate change, and the opening of the Arctic ocean, many country start to claim territory and sovereignty over this one fueled whit Oil & Diamond.

Russia and Canada already start the "cold war 2" both are deploying military forces in the Area... United-States is also deploying airforce in the Alaska... looking like an other "Cold war"...

Morgan · 12-26-2007, 05:32 PM

Are you saying an actual cold war or a war that is held in cold conditions because i reckon it could kick off. Putin is hardly the sanist man alive and I wouldnt put it past him to start something...

SiN|ScarFace · 12-26-2007, 07:01 PM

There have always been subs and such in that area, and the US has had a large number of jets in Alaska since WWII. Canada and Russia and US territory all meet up in that area and being that it's pretty uninhabitable it wasn't an issue until now. I don't think the Cold War ever ended, it just froze for a while. Putin isn't insane, he's just restablishing Russia to what it was.

Ironcomatose · 12-26-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SiN|ScarFace

There have always been subs and such in that area, and the US has had a large number of jets in Alaska since WWII. Canada and Russia and US territory all meet up in that area and being that it's pretty uninhabitable it wasn't an issue until now. I don't think the Cold War ever ended, it just froze for a while. Putin isn't insane, he's just restablishing Russia to what it was.

Which is insanely stupid. Btw love the sig

Jedimushroom · 12-26-2007, 10:32 PM

Gah, all the hype don't mean jack. The new president of Russia will likely be Putin's golden boy (what's his name? Oh who cares, he's russian) who seems slightly more liberal in his approach.

Besides, many new models show that the amount of resources at the poles was probably grocely overestimated by money hungry polar drilling companies, so it may all be a waste of time.

BloodBane611 · 12-27-2007, 12:02 AM

I don't think its going to be a big deal. Both the US and Russia can project military power at the poles, but the soviet navy is horribly outclassed. US subs have been working on detecting and destroying russian subs under polar ice and in polar waters for more than 4 decades, while most of the russian sub force is rusting out in their northern atlantic naval bases. The US has the manpower and technological capabilities to control the polar seas, while russia has a little political clout on a flag.

TheOldDog · 12-27-2007, 05:37 AM

North Pole? What about the south which, unlike the north, has land underneath its ice. Its a real mess... especially with the UK and Agentina (and of course both the US and Russia have 'reserved' their right to make claims on it in the future... yea... as if thats a surprise...)

Even the Nazi's have a piece of it... New Swabia...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...wSwabiaMap.jpg

[R-MOD]dunehunter · 12-27-2007, 07:10 AM

They had a piece of it

New Swabia was disbanded a long time ago.

Also, I really don't see a new Cold War breaking out, seeing how most of the major players are so dependent on each other for their economy.

[R-DEV]Nickbond592 · 12-27-2007, 03:10 PM

Russia maybe, they have already made moves to.

BloodBane611 · 12-27-2007, 07:32 PM

The reality is that a military action has no real benefit to anyone. Even if Russia did try to take the north pole's resources by force, it would then have to face a lot of pissed of nations. Lose-lose.

On the flip side, they could just make their entirely legal claims, keep selling us oil and natural gas, and make a buttload of money. Win-win.

12-26-2007, 04:40 PM	#1
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12-26-2007, 05:32 PM	#2
Morgan Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 698	Are you saying an actual cold war or a war that is held in cold conditions because i reckon it could kick off. Putin is hardly the sanist man alive and I wouldnt put it past him to start something...
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Jedimushroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London, Capital of the world Posts: 575	Gah, all the hype don't mean jack. The new president of Russia will likely be Putin's golden boy (what's his name? Oh who cares, he's russian) who seems slightly more liberal in his approach. Besides, many new models show that the amount of resources at the poles was probably grocely overestimated by money hungry polar drilling companies, so it may all be a waste of time.
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12-27-2007, 12:02 AM	#6
BloodBane611 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ USA Posts: 2,406	I don't think its going to be a big deal. Both the US and Russia can project military power at the poles, but the soviet navy is horribly outclassed. US subs have been working on detecting and destroying russian subs under polar ice and in polar waters for more than 4 decades, while most of the russian sub force is rusting out in their northern atlantic naval bases. The US has the manpower and technological capabilities to control the polar seas, while russia has a little political clout on a flag.
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12-27-2007, 05:37 AM	#7
TheOldDog Join Date: Dec 2006 Australia Posts: 567	North Pole? What about the south which, unlike the north, has land underneath its ice. Its a real mess... especially with the UK and Agentina (and of course both the US and Russia have 'reserved' their right to make claims on it in the future... yea... as if thats a surprise...) Even the Nazi's have a piece of it... New Swabia... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...wSwabiaMap.jpg
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12-26-2007, 07:01 PM	#3
SiN\|ScarFace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,449	There have always been subs and such in that area, and the US has had a large number of jets in Alaska since WWII. Canada and Russia and US territory all meet up in that area and being that it's pretty uninhabitable it wasn't an issue until now. I don't think the Cold War ever ended, it just froze for a while. Putin isn't insane, he's just restablishing Russia to what it was.

12-27-2007, 07:10 AM	#8
[R-MOD]dunehunter Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Belgium Location: Belgium Posts: 5,302	They had a piece of it New Swabia was disbanded a long time ago. Also, I really don't see a new Cold War breaking out, seeing how most of the major players are so dependent on each other for their economy.
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12-27-2007, 03:10 PM	#9
[R-DEV]Nickbond592 PR Mapper Team Join Date: Jan 2007 United Kingdom Location: chester,uk Posts: 1,837	Russia maybe, they have already made moves to.

12-27-2007, 07:32 PM	#10
BloodBane611 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ USA Posts: 2,406	The reality is that a military action has no real benefit to anyone. Even if Russia did try to take the north pole's resources by force, it would then have to face a lot of pissed of nations. Lose-lose. On the flip side, they could just make their entirely legal claims, keep selling us oil and natural gas, and make a buttload of money. Win-win.
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