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Old 03-23-2007, 09:21 AM   #1

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UK Sailors And Marines Seized By Iran

Just thought id put this up. Doubt it will come to much.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...257281,00.html

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:37 AM   #2

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Hmm.That’s probably the first escalation step from Iran after the French move.

Shit. Some of those present politicians would have a hard time winning a round in the dynamic PR environment.


They are almost all of them frontal assaulters, aren’t they?


If a political problem were to be looked upon as a map like Al Bashra, they wouldn’t know what to do. Maybe a map like Al Fallujah would be easier for them, its more linear and therefore requires more linear solutions. (Conventional speaking)

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:42 AM   #3
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Comparing strategy from a war game to real life are really two different things, but I see your point.

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:52 AM   #4

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what kind of sailers are these supposed to be? ordinary sailors don't control ships together with the military, or did i get something wrong?
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:54 AM   #5

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Comparing strategy from a war game to real life are really two different things, but I see your point.


Well in any normal term I guess your right. Then they are really two different things.


But in any divergent term, they aren’t. (imo)

Cause then it’s just the same clashing of energy, although the energy level and/or pattern it self and the rhythm maybe/most probably is different.

It’s just as predictable as pop music, or a Hollywood movie, isn’t it? You know how it will start and you know how it will end. (You know the pattern, the rhythm and the energy.)

And as an observer you are from the very start able to identify the process pattern as soon as you hear/see it. (Just as with the present politicians when they attempts to solve this stupid UK/Iranian situation using those predictable old tools based on the mindset of the frontal assault)

So when the pattern eventually is placed and everybody around the table agree in the pattern (like it seemed now, when France choose side in the situation) then it suddenly becomes a matter of rhythm doesn’t it?

(Rhythm in this case is the time between the escalations from the nations involved)

So it’s about trying to keep/follow that rhythm instead of changing the pattern, or at least confronting the pattern.

The politicians actually gets caught in their self created pattern, so all they can do now is only to increase or decrease the rhythm and/or energy of that very pattern. They are not flanking or going around, they are just head on assaulting. Just like we our self’s see true noobs on PR maps do all the time.
(The involved politicians are true noobs of their time in the term of how to win a fight and a peace.)


Hope its understandable...not that easy to explain in a foreign language.


Anyway,

Sometimes now and then in the history of war we see commanders who actually changes not only the rhythm in the music but actually invent total new music. (New pattern, new energy and new rhythm)

Take a commander like Gandhi, whom in the traditional way of thinking is viewed as a civilian commander, confronting a military system with his none violence policy. He was one of those who actually invented a whole new kind of music, plus rhythm and all the rest that followed in his path.

He was ahead of the music of his time and he still is.
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One of many movies that in my opinion describe some of the different parameters and patterns of warfare is a drama like Leon the professional. (Warfare in the context of this post is political tools ...diplomacy)

Elements like music, rhythm, patterns, logics, converging and diverging confronting concepts, mindset of the pro, mindset of the noob, the eye for an eye mentality and the mindset of the frontal assault with its ever ongoing focus on more resources is represented here.

Gary Oldman, the bad guy in this movie, actually mention music and also does his dirty work too with the help of music, thereby illustrating the necessary concept of momentum in war or rhythm if u like.

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what kind of sailers are these supposed to be? ordinary sailors don't control ships together with the military, or did i get something wrong?
They're Royal Marines.

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They're Royal Marines.
THIS explains a lot
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:35 PM   #8

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I wonder how it happened. This wasn't some stray zodiac patroling the shipping lanes. It was a boarding party from the HMS Cornwall, a warship. So how did this warship not see Iran coming? Also, I dont see how Iran could force the boarding craft into their custody when they were backed up by a frigate? The Cornwall must have been a good distance away or something.




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