"Society and the Soldier: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder"

[R-MOD]Saobh · 03-01-2007, 03:08 PM

One question, why is it we hear all the time "support the troops" when they're on the other side of the world. But people fall silent when they end up living in the street just next to you ?

Excerpt from Clark 'Community Network' site:
"Hurricane Katrina ravages the Gulf Coast in 2005 while an earthquake savages Pakistan, India and Afghanistan. In 2004, a crushing tsunami rises out of the Indian Ocean. A terrorist attack paralyzes a nation on a mid-September morning in 2001. Every two minutes, an American is raped. Over six million are involved in car accidents annually. One to three million are victims of domestic violence in our country every year. And then there are those who are sent to combat. All are susceptible to something we call PTSD: post-traumatic stress disorder.

Next month, on March 19, 2007, we arrive at the four-year mark of the start of the Iraq War. Seven months later, on October 7, 2007, six years will have passed since the war in Afghanistan began. Since then, nearly 1.5 million American men and women – representing about one half of one percent of the nation’s total population – have worn our nation’s uniform and served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and/or Operation Enduring Freedom. Nearly 3,200 have been killed in action thus far, and over 23,000 have been wounded.

In addition, nearly 150,000 have filed disability claims; over 100,000 of which have been granted, with another 30,000+ claims pending review. It is estimated that between 500 and 1,000 OEF/OIF vets are already homeless. Many have multiple deployments under their belts. For now, at least 38,000 returning troops carry invisible marks on their souls of one degree or another and are being treated by the Veterans Administration for psychological injuries once labeled nostalgia, shell shock or combat fatigue. Today we call it post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD."

read the rest here.

::Major_Baker:: · 03-01-2007, 03:19 PM

Tragic, isn't it?
just another folly
in a very long list.

sort of reminds me of the majority of the anti-choice crowd demanding that unwanted kids be born, but has no problem systematically neglecting them via lack of assistance/education funding once they are here.

[R-MOD]Wasteland · 03-01-2007, 03:21 PM

I agree with you Major, but that's the silver bullet to a thread on this forum.

SiN|ScarFace · 03-01-2007, 03:34 PM

Once you have done your time and served you are basically forgotten. People in general could give a shit what you did, saw and are left with which is sad given the shit you experienced in the name of your country but it happens anyway. It's all support the troops ra ra ra until they come home or the conflict is over, people love to wave the flag on the bandwagon but have no reason to actually support the troops.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · 03-01-2007, 04:45 PM

If any one saw the 3 minute one on channel for today (thursaday) they will atleast have some idea of the phsycological affect war CAn have on soldiers and the the shudderingly sad and horrible on their relatives.

NikovK · 03-01-2007, 05:56 PM

Is this a "link thread" or are you going somewhere?

[R-MOD]Saobh · 03-01-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]NikovK

Is this a "link thread" or are you going somewhere?

I believe my question speaks for itself.

NikovK · 03-01-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

One question, why is it we hear all the time "support the troops" when they're on the other side of the world. But people fall silent when they end up living in the street just next to you ?

Which is followed by:

1. Tragic. Off-topic swipe at pro-life organizations.
2. Ditto.
3. Griping in agreement.
4. If you saw this show, you'd know about this subject.

So people in this thread have fallen silent to the problem.

If you want to raise genuine support for PTSD therapy and recovery, why not suggest a good charity or fund the community could donate to?

~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ · 03-01-2007, 06:26 PM

Do they fall silent ?
How many reports of strong family support after returning home are there ?
We only read about the bad, the good goes unnoticed and unremarked.

NYgurkha · 03-01-2007, 06:28 PM

It is indeed sad that they are forgotten after what they have gone throuhg. But isnt this also due to the way in wich society has grown into? The separation and creation of the neuclear family and the lack of large families leavese may of these vets with nowhere to go. Back in Nepal every single Gurkha has a family to returne to, and if not a close reletive, then there is the village to rely on.

PS:there was a really good article on National Geographic recently about PTSD for returning vets.

03-01-2007, 03:08 PM	#1
[R-MOD]Saobh Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,802	"Society and the Soldier: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" One question, why is it we hear all the time "support the troops" when they're on the other side of the world. But people fall silent when they end up living in the street just next to you ? Excerpt from Clark 'Community Network' site: "Hurricane Katrina ravages the Gulf Coast in 2005 while an earthquake savages Pakistan, India and Afghanistan. In 2004, a crushing tsunami rises out of the Indian Ocean. A terrorist attack paralyzes a nation on a mid-September morning in 2001. Every two minutes, an American is raped. Over six million are involved in car accidents annually. One to three million are victims of domestic violence in our country every year. And then there are those who are sent to combat. All are susceptible to something we call PTSD: post-traumatic stress disorder. Next month, on March 19, 2007, we arrive at the four-year mark of the start of the Iraq War. Seven months later, on October 7, 2007, six years will have passed since the war in Afghanistan began. Since then, nearly 1.5 million American men and women – representing about one half of one percent of the nation’s total population – have worn our nation’s uniform and served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and/or Operation Enduring Freedom. Nearly 3,200 have been killed in action thus far, and over 23,000 have been wounded. In addition, nearly 150,000 have filed disability claims; over 100,000 of which have been granted, with another 30,000+ claims pending review. It is estimated that between 500 and 1,000 OEF/OIF vets are already homeless. Many have multiple deployments under their belts. For now, at least 38,000 returning troops carry invisible marks on their souls of one degree or another and are being treated by the Veterans Administration for psychological injuries once labeled nostalgia, shell shock or combat fatigue. Today we call it post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD." read the rest here.

03-01-2007, 03:19 PM	#2
::Major_Baker:: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 408	Tragic, isn't it? just another folly in a very long list. sort of reminds me of the majority of the anti-choice crowd demanding that unwanted kids be born, but has no problem systematically neglecting them via lack of assistance/education funding once they are here.
::Major_Baker:: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 408

03-01-2007, 03:21 PM	#3
[R-MOD]Wasteland Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,673	I agree with you Major, but that's the silver bullet to a thread on this forum.
	Originally Posted by: ArmedDrunk&Angry we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance Originally Posted by: [R-MOD]dunehunter don't mess with wasteland, a scary guy will drag you into an alleyway and rape you with a baseballbat

03-01-2007, 05:56 PM	#6
NikovK Retired PR Developer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,630	Is this a "link thread" or are you going somewhere?
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03-01-2007, 03:34 PM	#4
SiN\|ScarFace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,447	Once you have done your time and served you are basically forgotten. People in general could give a shit what you did, saw and are left with which is sad given the shit you experienced in the name of your country but it happens anyway. It's all support the troops ra ra ra until they come home or the conflict is over, people love to wave the flag on the bandwagon but have no reason to actually support the troops.

03-01-2007, 04:45 PM	#5
Top_Cat_AxJnAt Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: "destruction of WEYBRIDGE and Shepperton" - WaroftheWorlds Posts: 3,194	If any one saw the 3 minute one on channel for today (thursaday) they will atleast have some idea of the phsycological affect war CAn have on soldiers and the the shudderingly sad and horrible on their relatives.

03-01-2007, 06:26 PM	#9
~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 6,971	Do they fall silent ? How many reports of strong family support after returning home are there ? We only read about the bad, the good goes unnoticed and unremarked.

03-01-2007, 06:28 PM	#10
NYgurkha Join Date: Nov 2006 United States of America Location: New York Posts: 919	It is indeed sad that they are forgotten after what they have gone throuhg. But isnt this also due to the way in wich society has grown into? The separation and creation of the neuclear family and the lack of large families leavese may of these vets with nowhere to go. Back in Nepal every single Gurkha has a family to returne to, and if not a close reletive, then there is the village to rely on. PS:there was a really good article on National Geographic recently about PTSD for returning vets.

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