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Old 12-29-2006, 02:35 PM   #1

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Military considers recruiting foreigners

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...ng_foreigners/

"proposals to open recruiting stations overseas and putting more immigrants on a faster track to US citizenship if they volunteer -- according to Pentagon officials.


Nice, foreign troops fighting for "freedom".

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Old 12-29-2006, 02:53 PM   #2
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Ehm, I considered enlisting when I was younger, though I have since then come to the conclusion that I probably wouldn't be any good in a war.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:07 PM   #3
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Wow let History repeat itself and learn nothing.

Reminds you of the later Roman Empire eh?
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:23 PM   #4

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Not a good idea. The Roman example is spot on. A very very bad idea.

Expedited citizenship? Um...

Hi, I'm a terrorist. Because the US Army is granting citizenship to those willing to fight for the US... I'm going to infiltrate the US Army, and then kill a bunch of soldiers in a gigantic suicide bombing during bootcamp...

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Old 12-29-2006, 09:48 PM   #5
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So what? Have any of you heard of the French Foreign Legion? They are an all foreigner army, and that works out well because we can send them into battle first. Why have our men die when foreigners can die for us?

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So what? Have any of you heard of the French Foreign Legion? They are an all foreigner army, and that works out well because we can send them into battle first. Why have our men die when foreigners can die for us?
exactly

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Old 12-29-2006, 10:15 PM   #7

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lol! , thats a great idea let Foreigners kill each other off
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:45 AM   #8
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I believe this is completely ridiculous...

You dont ask foreigners to defend your country. Grow some balls and defend it yourself. That's a good start to know the real price that freedom demands, and a very good way to recognize when you have something worth fighting for, and even worth dying for...

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Wow let History repeat itself and learn nothing.

Reminds you of the later Roman Empire eh?

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Old 12-30-2006, 07:19 AM   #9
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So what? Have any of you heard of the French Foreign Legion? They are an all foreigner army, and that works out well because we can send them into battle first. Why have our men die when foreigners can die for us?

taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion

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While most of its commissioned officers are French, approximately 10% are former Legionnaires who have risen through the ranks. The rest of the Legion is made up of men from a wide variety of nationalities, with French citizens representing 25-35% of the Legionnaires. The foreign volunteers are primarily European. Before and during World War II, many Jews from Eastern Europe fled to France and ended up enlisting in the Legion. Ironically, after the fall of the Third Reich, Germans (long a major presence in the legion) accounted for roughly sixty percent of the manpower, with many former German troops coming directly from World War II POW camps (Bernard B. Fall, a leading expert on French Indochina and author of Street without Joy and Hell in a Very Small Place, disputes this figure and claims that at most Germans only made up thirty-five percent of the Legion in the post-WWII period). The book Devil's Guard relates a former Waffen-SS member's brutal account of joining the Legion and fighting with fellow former SS against the Vietminh in Indochina. During the mid-1980s the Legion contained large contingents of British and Serbian nationals. Present day has seen a number of recruits from African and Balkan countries.

The Legion's ranks historically were filled with enlistees from countries which were undergoing some sort of crisis. While no serious studies were made of the motives for enlistment it seems likely that many recruits were simply transient foreigners who found themselves in France and out of work. In recent generations, however, many of those joining have come from middle-class backgrounds in stable prosperous countries such as Britain and the US (and indeed France itself). During the late 1980s the Foreign Legion saw a massive intake of former UK soldiers which left the British Army due to its reformation. At one point the famous 2eme REP had approx. 1,200 British citizens amongst the ranks which resulted in the standing joke of the unit being called 2eme PARA, in reference to the 2nd Parachute Regiment of the British Army.

Legionnaires can choose to enlist under a pseudonym ("declared identity") and a declared citizenship. This disposition exists in order to allow people who want to turn over a new leaf in their life to enlist. French citizens can enlist under a declared, fictitious, foreign citizenship (generally, a francophone one). After one year's service, Legionnaires can regularize their situation under their true identity.

In the past, the Legion had a reputation for attracting criminals on the run and would-be mercenaries. In recent years, however, admission has been restricted much more severely, and background checks are done on all applicants. Generally speaking, convicted felons are prohibited from joining the service.

After serving in the Legion for a certain period of time, a legionnaire may apply for French citizenship. During the early 1990s this used to be possible during a legionnaire's first 5-year term of service, however in recent years a second 5-year term must be committed to, to encourage longer service.
They are an elite/dedicated force rather then cannon fodder as you seem to imply.
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:32 AM   #10

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So what? Have any of you heard of the French Foreign Legion? They are an all foreigner army, and that works out well because we can send them into battle first. Why have our men die when foreigners can die for us?
yeah, because all people are equal, some are just more equal

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