Qinling needs MAJOR revamp.

[[R-CON]Hfett]

the best way to tank is to flank enemy tanks that are sitiing on hill's instead of trying to engage then directly,

Go arround the map(there is a lot of space fo flank) then go betwen the enemy mainbase and where they are attacking, you will find a lot of tanks looking at the other way that will be easy kills

I love Qiling 64, sadly i cannot run it on my server (linux) but once in a while i join servers running it just to drive a tank

[Waaah_Wah]

I completely disagree with the OP. Quinling is possible the best map out there along with Kashan. And no, i dont use air assets that often

[Polka]

Flanking on Qinling = AWESOME

[Drake]

Planes in online fps = fail

Maybe when maps are 10 times bigger and we have 256 slot servers it might be good. Untill then, Im off to a another server. (or another game, IL-2 if I feel like flying)

and Quinling is too laggy, maybe if you redesign the whole map with optimization in mind and replace the planes with choppers, it could be good. I agree with ppl saying "this map s***s, put has potential".

[NickO]

Only problem with Qinling is the unbalanced british assets such as the Challenger 2/Eurofighter.

I also had someone tell me that the brits only start to bleed after they lose farm outpost whilst the chinese start bleeding after the brits cap mine+village.

[Emnyron]

Originally Posted by NickO

Only problem with Qinling is the unbalanced british assets such as the Challenger 2/Eurofighter.

I also had someone tell me that the brits only start to bleed after they lose farm outpost whilst the chinese start bleeding after the brits cap mine+village.

The Ch2 and EF is a major problem, I agree with you.. Not only are they 5 times as mobile as the PLA equivalent, but they also seem to be able to take an unreasonable amount of damamge, compared to the PLA assets.

Not to mention, I hate hate hate hate hate that new collor on the Z-10..

The bleed starts when both middle flags are capped by one side.
But considering that the brits have a shorter hike to all flags, and less hills to funnel them.. Yea.. Not a balanced map in that respect, not that Ive got any problem with it, apart from the, if you whoud, the "Union-jacking" that this map screams at you.. I mean, I can almost hear that smug british bastard go, "We`re just better than you ol`chap, cuse we`re the Brits" or "British engineering love, Finest in the world" and It makes me sick..

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by Emnyron

But considering that the brits have a shorter hike to all flags, and less hills to funnel them.. Yea.. Not a balanced map in that respect, not that Ive got any problem with it, apart from the, if you whoud, the "Union-jacking" that this map screams at you.. I mean, I can almost hear that smug british bastard go, "We`re just better than you ol`chap, cuse we`re the Brits" or "British engineering love, Finest in the world" and It makes me sick..

ehhh no, the PLA in fact have a shorter distance to all flags than the brits do by quite abit in fact. Terrain wise PLA are easily in the advantage. A good PLA team can even stop the brits basically getting to the village by mineing the bridge on the river, thou there are ways round it it requires abit of a detor and there's nothing stopping PLA mineing thous bits too.

Brits do have the terrain advantage over the coal mine thou but quite abit, with that big hill etc but still, a good PLA tank keeping in the shadows can take out any tank that trys to be a "teh 1337 sniper tank" ontop of the hill, done it many times myself, you can take out 3 tanks before they can work out where you are if you do it right

Thou everywhere else, PLA has a huge terrain advantage over the brits, epically on the village.

EDIT: and also just read the final part of your post, what a load of crap. There is a small col issue with the CR2, that is it and that is the only reason why it seems to take more damage than other tanks. the fact is it has the same HP and same power as other tanks. In fact anouther small col issue being the turret has a col mesh where all other tanks dont in fact gives it a disadvantage for alot of the time over the other tanks. If you look at my SS in the post before you see me and squid got 65 kills basically all in a PLA Tank and most of them where taking out CR2s. you make me sick saying that you think its cos the devs are all britis and think we have only made this mod so the brits can win every map? around only 1/3 of the dev team are brits I think you should know and we never make anything cos its super cool. If we thought that we would have put the Javelin AT missile in PR ages ago but the fact is in its current state back then it was super over powered so we did not and we sould have also not bothered making the QBZs and G3s for the other teams etc..

Qinling is balanced, PLA do win 1/2 the time on the map, thou there is a few small asset balances that do make it a little un fair, epically the EF2000 vs the J-10 but thous imbalances dose not have that much of a huge effect on the outcome of the map.

[Viper5]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

ehhh no, the PLA in fact have a shorter distance to all flags than the brits do by quite abit in fact. Terrain wise PLA are easily in the advantage. A good PLA team can even stop the brits basically getting to the village by mineing the bridge on the river, thou there are ways round it it requires abit of a detor and there's nothing stopping PLA mineing thous bits too.

Brits do have the terrain advantage over the coal mine thou but quite abit, with that big hill etc but still, a good PLA tank keeping in the shadows can take out any tank that trys to be a "teh 1337 sniper tank" ontop of the hill, done it many times myself, you can take out 3 tanks before they can work out where you are if you do it right

Thou everywhere else, PLA has a huge terrain advantage over the brits, epically on the village.

EDIT: and also just read the final part of your post, what a load of crap. There is a small col issue with the CR2, that is it and that is the only reason why it seems to take more damage than other tanks. the fact is it has the same HP and same power as other tanks. In fact anouther small col issue being the turret has a col mesh where all other tanks dont in fact gives it a disadvantage for alot of the time over the other tanks. If you look at my SS in the post before you see me and squid got 65 kills basically all in a PLA Tank and most of them where taking out CR2s. you make me sick saying that you think its cos the devs are all britis and think we have only made this mod so the brits can win every map? around only 1/3 of the dev team are brits I think you should know and we never make anything cos its super cool. If we thought that we would have put the Javelin AT missile in PR ages ago but the fact is in its current state back then it was super over powered so we did not and we sould have also not bothered making the QBZs and G3s for the other teams etc..

Qinling is balanced, PLA do win 1/2 the time on the map, thou there is a few small asset balances that do make it a little un fair, epically the EF2000 vs the J-10 but thous imbalances dose not have that much of a huge effect on the outcome of the map.

Yeah they do...

C2 1v1 owns the Chinese Tank.
EF 1v1 owns the J10

If you're going to have a symmetrical map the assets need to be...

symmetrical


Agree that it needs a rework. Right now whenever the server rotation comes to it the population either gets cut by huge amounts or theirs a successful mapvote or admin change to next map after.

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by Viper5

C2 1v1 owns the Chinese Tank.

notice in the bottom left, I was in the PLA Type-98 Tank, aginst no noob tankers, TG tankers. also note 80% of our deaths where in the early part of the round when we where getting shot down by the EF2000, which yes is really over powered compared to the J-10 and yes we are working on it.

Care to explain?

EDIT: in fact I'll show you the problem with the CR2 which confuses soo many people to think its over powered...



The col mesh is colour coded to make it simple.
Green = Soft Armor, which should be found on the rear and top of the tank.
Blue = Medium Armor, which is found on the sides.
Yellow = Hard Armor which should be found on the front.

The problem as I've pointed out is patches on the back of the tank, and in some cases very large patches like the fule barrles are using the Hard Armor material, which means if you hit them you would have been better off shooting the guy on his side armor.

This is the problem with the CR2 and can only be fixed with a fix in Max to the col mesh and then a re-import.

Please also note, its "hit points" on both the CR2 and Type-98 are exactly the same, at 1600.






As you can see, its a small bug which confuses players and yes we hope to fix this small bug before v0.8's release.

[Mora]

And whats with the gunners scope? it seems to be at the end of the barrel.