Hamas?

[motherdear]

in relation to hamas having M4's that's extremely rare, with their counterpart the more non religous group Fatah is know to use american weaponry like M4's because they have gotten them supplied from Israel or USA to counter Hamas.

[[R-DEV]GeZe]

Actually, why Hamas? Why not Hezbollah. I think this would be a better idea.

[[R-CON]ZZEZ]

Well its Hamas because we have Shiftys1023 that agreed to skin it.
I wouldn't mind Hezbollah instead of Hamas[don't get me wrong, I don't see Hezbollah in good eyes aswell] as they are more militant group then Hamas and it would allow us to give them bigger kit selection with Russian equipment, their uniform are very similar to IDF's.
BUT Hezbollah will require far more work then Hamas, Hezbollah actually have vehicles and tanks[old tanks but sill] and most importantly, mobile Katyusha launchers that will have to be modeled as its one of the "trademarks" of this organization.

This brings us to another point, the developers did not give their consent on including IDF specific enemy factions that will take space on the mod - so the less work done on enemy factions the better it will be as our goal ultimately is to include the IDF.
I am not certain that the developers will agree to include Hamas after we get it done, but its certainly worth trying as it will add immersion to the game with very little work for it.

[[R-CON]Hfett]

Why not both of them, since we are always fighting the same factions, lot's of new team 2 factions we need more team 1 to refresh =)

[Outlawz]

Originally Posted by ZZEZ

1)Civilian
2)Rifleman - AK47, 2x grenades, ammo bag, binocs and 1x field dressing
3)Demolition Expert - SKS, 1 c4, 1 mine, field dressing
4)Doctor - M16[vBF2 model], medic bag, 3x field dressing
5)Security Force - MP5[vBF2 model], pistol[no idea what would fit], 1x field dressing

Request kits/Pickup:
1)Officer - M4[vBF2 model], 2 grenades, 1 Molotov, binocs, 3x field dressing
2)Support - PKM, ammo bag, 1x field dressing
3)Sniper - Mosin naga, binocs, 1x field dressing
4)LAT - pistol, RPG with two rockets, binocs, 1x field dressing

Does Hamas actually rely on civilian support? Because, if they can request kits and have RPs, that would make them more independent

Also, should they be reviveable, but the doctor doesn't have shock paddles, like the Militia?

[ReadMenace]

For Hezbollah, reskin the civilians in yellow jackets?

-Read

[[R-CON]Hfett]

I would keep a "militia" style for them with RP, would be more suited for Infantary maps (like the karkand audit)

I would not like to see it depending on spawn cars

Also, i think they are more a "militia" then "insurgents", they got uniforms and etc...

And i would remove Civilians, they dont fit well AAS maps

I would go with this layout:
1)Rifleman - AK47, 2x grenades, ammo bag, binocs and 1x field dressing
2)Demolition Expert - Mp5, 1 c4, 1 mine, field dressing
3)Doctor - AK74u, medic bag, 3x field dressing
4)War Veteran - AK-101, 2x nades, 1x field dressing

Requestable kits:
1)Officer - M4[vBF2 model], 2 grenades, 1 Molotov, binocs, 3x field dressing

Pick Up kits (mapper would place then acording to the map layout)
2)Support - PKM, ammo bag, 1x field dressing
3)Another Support - RPK, ammo bag, 1x field dressing
4)Sniper - Mosin naga, binocs, 1x field dressing
5)Marksman - SVD, binocs, 1x field dressing
6)LAT - pistol, RPG with two rockets, binocs, 1x field dressing

Also we could have some other pick kits like this:
Random assalt rifle, 2x nades, 1x field dressing

Where random could be G3, m16, etc...

[[R-CON]ZZEZ]

Originally Posted by Outlawz

Does Hamas actually rely on civilian support? Because, if they can request kits and have RPs, that would make them more independent

Also, should they be reviveable, but the doctor doesn't have shock paddles, like the Militia?

Yes Hamas relys on civilian support in real life and it should be represented in ingame in some form.
Doctor - yes exactly like the Militia, scrap the M16 and give them AK47 I guess.


[R-PUB]Hfett - if the developers will agree I don't see why not, Hezbollah will require far more work then Hamas, on top of my head:
1)pickup car reskinned
2)T62 reskinned
3)Katyusha launcher car modeled/skinned, at least as static, preferably as weapon.
Remember, we shouldn't go overboard with it - IDF is our priority

I didn't mean to sound aggressive in my above post, but we have to draw the line somewhere or there will be lots of IDF specific enemy factions that won't contribute anything outside IDF vs maps.

[[R-MOD]Eddiereyes909]

I love this idea

<3

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damn i cant wait!

[jayceon515]

We can make Hezbollah later.
For Hamas there will be:
1) Civilian (reskinned current civilian)
2) Militant (AK47, 2 grenades, binos, 1 field dressing)
3) Gunman (AK47, binos, 1 smoke grenade, 1 field dressing, ammo bag)
4) Ambusher (police man shotgun from 0.5, 2 IED's, 2 mines, 1 field dressing)
5) "Security force" (vBF2 M16A2, M9, binos, 2 smoke grenades, 1 field dressing, grappling hook) maybe someone could think of a better name for this kit.
6) Doctor (MP5, medic bag, 2 smoke grenades, binos? 3 field dressings)

Hope you like it