Top gunner same squad

sniperNZSAS · 06-18-2008, 11:50 PM

I was going to put this along with my Al Basrah Nights suggestion but forgot. I want it made so that the top gunner on the tanks MUST be in the same squad as the driver and gunner. Reason being today my squad was getting ready to use the Challenger. 2 of them were already in it and I was preparing to be the top gunner, until just as I was about to get in, another guy comes along, not from the squad and gets in the top gun. I sent message after message telling him to get out, but he did not even reply and just sat their fireing the top gun dry. After about 5 or 6 minutes ( probably easily more ) Big Red decides to drive in and kill the challenger and the 2 APC's from my squad who were waiting on us. As you can probably tell, this pissed me off to words that I cannot use in these forums.

Tirak · 06-19-2008, 12:03 AM

Do you mean the .50 or the Main Turret? If you mean the Turret, I agree, if you mean the .50, I do not.

Colt556 · 06-19-2008, 12:10 AM

He's talking about the .50 cal, I can't say I agree. After all the top-gunner isn't part of the tank crew. I believe the squad limitations were to show that a tank crew operates together, and seperate soldiers from differant brigades don't just pile into a tank n yell "Go!". However the .50 isn't a member of the crew and thus could easily be some random soldier who for some reason got seperated from his unit and decided to provide anti-infantry support for the tank.

My advice to you for next time, put a round through his head. Don't just sit there as the guy is being an asshat and wasting ammo. However if he's compotent and tells you he doesn't want to, just accept it. There are no reservations in PR, first come first serve, suck it up and move along.

ZaZZo · 06-19-2008, 09:09 AM

I was under the impression that the MG gunner in a tank is very much part of the crew?

Anyway, I'm all for this idea as quite often there's just some idiot on the MG.

Psykogundam · 06-19-2008, 09:17 AM

.50 position in the tank is worthless anyway imo. I have a regular tank partner and we do long runs in a tank and when we get damaged we RTB and repair and rearm. Thing is, the engineer we take with us kept getting killed out of the .50, so now he tails us in a soft skin to give us repairs.(Which must suck from his perspective) The .50 never kills anything, the Cap blocks the vision of the driver, and the passanger ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS gets killed on the tank's enguagement.

But in regards to your post...The .50 cal should be dedicated to the tank squad and not to randomers who decide to hitch a ride at the expence of the crew.

Ironcomatose · 06-19-2008, 09:26 AM

I agree with this. For the reason you stated and also because why would some random blue guy want to get in there, which also means he will be away from his squad. Clearly that guy would have to be an idiot and therefore that should be in place as to stop that kind of crap.

sniperNZSAS · 06-19-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psykogundam

.50 position in the tank is worthless anyway imo. I have a regular tank partner and we do long runs in a tank and when we get damaged we RTB and repair and rearm. Thing is, the engineer we take with us kept getting killed out of the .50, so now he tails us in a soft skin to give us repairs.(Which must suck from his perspective) The .50 never kills anything, the Cap blocks the vision of the driver, and the passanger ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS gets killed on the tank's enguagement.

I disagree, I do most my tank time in the top gun. very little do I ever get killed, and I kill my fair share of inf, plus its an excellent tool for spotting and taking out the drivers of any bomb cars or trucks, although fair point you make about the cap blocking the drivers sight

Sgt.North · 06-19-2008, 10:45 AM

Solution..... make it an enclosed position.... use the RWS (Remote Weapon Station) system ;P But limit it to Crewmen, Officer, and Engineer.

gclark03 · 06-19-2008, 11:26 AM

I don't think we can do something like that without making a new model for every single vBF2 tank in the game. (How many are there in 0.75?)

Maxfragg · 06-19-2008, 11:35 AM

you can, the MG is only a child moddel that could be replaced with a crows or similar, AND Satnav wrote in the bfsp forum that EA wouldn't care about editing moddels anymore since bf2 is so old

06-18-2008, 11:50 PM	#1
sniperNZSAS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 24	Top gunner same squad I was going to put this along with my Al Basrah Nights suggestion but forgot. I want it made so that the top gunner on the tanks MUST be in the same squad as the driver and gunner. Reason being today my squad was getting ready to use the Challenger. 2 of them were already in it and I was preparing to be the top gunner, until just as I was about to get in, another guy comes along, not from the squad and gets in the top gun. I sent message after message telling him to get out, but he did not even reply and just sat their fireing the top gun dry. After about 5 or 6 minutes ( probably easily more ) Big Red decides to drive in and kill the challenger and the 2 APC's from my squad who were waiting on us. As you can probably tell, this pissed me off to words that I cannot use in these forums.

06-19-2008, 12:03 AM	#2
Tirak Join Date: May 2008 Location: Probably Al Basrah or Fools Road Posts: 913	Re: Top gunner same squad Do you mean the .50 or the Main Turret? If you mean the Turret, I agree, if you mean the .50, I do not.
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06-19-2008, 12:10 AM	#3
Colt556 Join Date: Jun 2008 United States of America Posts: 351	Re: Top gunner same squad He's talking about the .50 cal, I can't say I agree. After all the top-gunner isn't part of the tank crew. I believe the squad limitations were to show that a tank crew operates together, and seperate soldiers from differant brigades don't just pile into a tank n yell "Go!". However the .50 isn't a member of the crew and thus could easily be some random soldier who for some reason got seperated from his unit and decided to provide anti-infantry support for the tank. My advice to you for next time, put a round through his head. Don't just sit there as the guy is being an asshat and wasting ammo. However if he's compotent and tells you he doesn't want to, just accept it. There are no reservations in PR, first come first serve, suck it up and move along.

06-19-2008, 09:09 AM	#4
ZaZZo Join Date: Feb 2007 Denmark Location: Denmark Posts: 1,442	Re: Top gunner same squad I was under the impression that the MG gunner in a tank is very much part of the crew? Anyway, I'm all for this idea as quite often there's just some idiot on the MG.
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06-19-2008, 09:17 AM	#5
Psykogundam PR Beta Testing Team Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Ireland Posts: 792	Re: Top gunner same squad .50 position in the tank is worthless anyway imo. I have a regular tank partner and we do long runs in a tank and when we get damaged we RTB and repair and rearm. Thing is, the engineer we take with us kept getting killed out of the .50, so now he tails us in a soft skin to give us repairs.(Which must suck from his perspective) The .50 never kills anything, the Cap blocks the vision of the driver, and the passanger ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS gets killed on the tank's enguagement. But in regards to your post...The .50 cal should be dedicated to the tank squad and not to randomers who decide to hitch a ride at the expence of the crew.

06-19-2008, 09:26 AM	#6
Ironcomatose Join Date: Feb 2007 United States of America Location: Bronx,NYC Posts: 3,128	Re: Top gunner same squad I agree with this. For the reason you stated and also because why would some random blue guy want to get in there, which also means he will be away from his squad. Clearly that guy would have to be an idiot and therefore that should be in place as to stop that kind of crap.
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06-19-2008, 10:45 AM	#8
Sgt.North Join Date: May 2007 Location: Over the hills and far away in a sand pit. Posts: 77	Re: Top gunner same squad Solution..... make it an enclosed position.... use the RWS (Remote Weapon Station) system ;P But limit it to Crewmen, Officer, and Engineer.
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06-19-2008, 11:26 AM	#9
gclark03 Join Date: Nov 2007 Montserrat Location: Up Posts: 1,083	Re: Top gunner same squad I don't think we can do something like that without making a new model for every single vBF2 tank in the game. (How many are there in 0.75?)
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06-19-2008, 11:35 AM	#10
Maxfragg Join Date: Jan 2007 Germany Location: Frankonia, Germany Posts: 1,416	Re: Top gunner same squad you can, the MG is only a child moddel that could be replaced with a crows or similar, AND Satnav wrote in the bfsp forum that EA wouldn't care about editing moddels anymore since bf2 is so old

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