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Old 06-21-2008, 12:20 PM   #641

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Old 06-21-2008, 12:27 PM   #642

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Please, NOOOO!!! I hope you're kidding Skpike.

That tune has been used in too many battle/fighting/people falling over youtube videos...

Anyone else that uses drowning pool or disturbed tunes for BF videos gets a slap from me!

Seriously, get some proper metal down you!

I'd like to see an intro video like vBF2 has, something like the menu background PR has but loads up after the BSS logo.

I guess it can wait till v1.0 as the video might need to change after each release.

ps, nice sig Spike.
Oh if its been used to death then don't worry about it, i'll just wait untill it comes out and i'll make one with a bit of Lamb Of God in it

Yes its a great sig, i have no idea who made it tho lol

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Old 06-21-2008, 03:40 PM   #643

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Yeah man, Lamb of God FTW!!!

Now you're talkin'!

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Old 06-21-2008, 03:50 PM   #644

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Old 06-21-2008, 10:23 PM   #645

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that's sort of how missile lock systems work in real life. you can lock on before you actually see the target.
Yes, then increase the view distance i mean, i can see only 600 meters and after 600 meter you only see this "fog" even on the desert map - Kashan...And btw if the AA-can lock before you see the aircraft this should be kilometers away...(in real life)
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:01 AM   #646
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Yes, then increase the view distance i mean, i can see only 600 meters and after 600 meter you only see this "fog" even on the desert map - Kashan...And btw if the AA-can lock before you see the aircraft this should be kilometers away...(in real life)
Well AA has a very big range in real life, but so do aircraft, that can lock onto vehicles....

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Old 06-22-2008, 03:54 PM   #647

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Well AA has a very big range in real life, but so do aircraft, that can lock onto vehicles....
Indeed. It is supposedly reported that the M1 Tunguska has a maximum engagement range of 8 kilometers. However the AH-64 Apache has a maximum engagement range of 6 kilometers. This is what I have read and heard, but cannot fully confirm this as it could be another country's attempt to simply throw thier weight around.

I'm not particularly fond of the way helicopters are used in game now. I can understand flying at an altitude of 700m high against under-equipped Insurgents to avoid RPG fire. Afterall, they do practice those tactics in Iraq. But hovering almost 700m above the ground against a well equipped enemy force with AAV's? I don't think so, you're just asking for a lock-on.

Care to be enlightened? U.S. Army (Field Manual) FM 1-112 Attack Helicopter Operations

But what can I say? It's a cross between realism, gameplay balance and engine limitations. As much as I would love to commit these facts to memory and use them in a realsitic fashion, the gameplay remains the same. You can only hope that the other guy in the cockpit with you knows what he's doing, and if he isn't paying attention you're dead. Simple as that.

And yes, I'm aware of Alex's and Mora's famed helicopter expertise.

"... As PR continues to struggle to find realism in infantry combat; the aspect of quick reflexes has been replaced by encouraging camping instead."


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Old 06-22-2008, 04:41 PM   #648
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Indeed. It is supposedly reported that the M1 Tunguska has a maximum engagement range of 8 kilometers. However the AH-64 Apache has a maximum engagement range of 6 kilometers. This is what I have read and heard, but cannot fully confirm this as it could be another country's attempt to simply throw thier weight around.

I'm not particularly fond of the way helicopters are used in game now. I can understand flying at an altitude of 700m high against under-equipped Insurgents to avoid RPG fire. Afterall, they do practice those tactics in Iraq. But hovering almost 700m above the ground against a well equipped enemy force with AAV's? I don't think so, you're just asking for a lock-on.

Care to be enlightened? U.S. Army (Field Manual) FM 1-112 Attack Helicopter Operations

But what can I say? It's a cross between realism, gameplay balance and engine limitations. As much as I would love to commit these facts to memory and use them in a realsitic fashion, the gameplay remains the same. You can only hope that the other guy in the cockpit with you knows what he's doing, and if he isn't paying attention you're dead. Simple as that.

And yes, I'm aware of Alex's and Mora's famed helicopter expertise.

How do get choppers to fly realistically? I never fly low, why? Because I am more afraid of tanks than AAVs.

Shouldn´t be like that. Why is it? Because in PR tanks have no bullet drop. It is to mimick their real life counterparts. However what is not taken into consideration is the PR view distance compared to real life. So the bullet drop on vehicles needs to be proportional to that view distance. I have countermeasures and a tone with AA missiles, but no defence or warning against a laser sabot round. Helicopters do not have stabilisation, nor can the lock on, and the hellfires travel slower than sabots.

The tank has a stable platform and can hit me easily, while I have to hover very still so that my gunner has the posibility to hit putting me at great risk.

Finally, a high flying chopper can take out a low flying one 100% easier.

Also, on kashan for example, there are very few hills to hide behind. So with all the above mentioned, I much prefer to fly high and get a better reaction time against AA than fly low.

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Old 06-22-2008, 04:46 PM   #649

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The reasons why flying high in pr is better then low flying are simple.

When at high altitude you probaly wont be seen by anything except AA.
Cant be engaged by tanks main cannon only when the elevation is right witch is a small chance.
Gunner has a nice view of the map, can see almost everything that lies beneath.


The only disadvantage is the AA but with more distance there is more time to react and drop the flares.

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Old 06-22-2008, 05:23 PM   #650

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can i have this??? Be good for VIP maps
YouTube - Car With 7.62mm Mini Gun On The Top
Im not serious about this, just wanted to see how many smiles it brought
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