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Old 12-07-2007, 08:26 PM   #1

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Bring the combat zones back closer?

Yes, ever since maps like Ejod, Phoenix, Sunset... got an explosive amount of extra territory due the combat border being miles away, I noticed an issue with "flanking".

On Phoenix, when an USMC squad sets a RP east of Train, behind the hill, MEC always has to go all the way around to sweep them out, slowly draining soldiers from the general area where the CPs are, to fight in no man's land, because someone deployed a pile of bags somewhere and magically pulled out a sniper kit.
The main area is focused around the city, yet there's rarely any fighting in it, besides the times, when USMC squads don't want to be 1337 behind-3n3my-lines-suP3r-sn1p3rZ.

Same thing on Ejod. While there's less spamminess in the central area, there will be always someone going around in the hills to ambush the other team, then the other team will send its APCs, tanks...to that direction, leaving no one capturing the flags or defending them, making the central area an actual ghost town, as the map description says.

It's also an issue on Sunset, where one team deploys a RP far up the river or down the lake, then you have to send squads 500 m away from the city to track them down. There literally isn't any fighting in the city itself now, as everyone can go around anywhere they want to.

My proposal would be to bring the combat zones closer, yet far enough to set RPs without forcing the entire enemy team to hunt you down.

Discuss.

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Old 12-08-2007, 10:24 AM   #2

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Negatiory. Let them be like they are! Makes quite a lot of fun. We need more maps like EJOD Desert. I'm looking forward to Muttrah v2 and I hope that it won't be too big because the good old Muttrah feeling (you frikkin know what I mean ) would go to hell. I really love maps like that! Harr Harr!


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Old 12-08-2007, 10:51 AM   #3

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Putting limits to realism isn't a very good idea. IRL no one can will force you to only fight inside the city if there is plenty of surrounding areas to use as cover or whatever (EJOD/Sunset)

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:08 AM   #4

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well on phoenix usmc camp on the hills because they have a scope that can engage the flag from far. i wonder what would happen if they all had iron sights?
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:05 PM   #5

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I believe that the plan is to move to real scopes, from the current pseudo scopes, so that is basically null and void.

Anyhow, I agree with jay. Innovate, get there first, or get better at killing them. Lets not limit the space we have just to keep from being challenged.

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:18 PM   #6

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Yes, I do agree, that IRL no one tells you 'you can't go here', but on Ejod the area is really way too big, IMO, I wouldn't minds 200 m to west and east, but 1 Km of plain desert?

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Old 12-08-2007, 02:33 PM   #7

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With the exception of water, no limit to maneuver space IRL...


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Old 12-08-2007, 03:37 PM   #8
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Actually, in real-life, don't units get zones in which they are supposed to operate, to avoid friendly fire and that kind of stuff?



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Old 12-08-2007, 10:11 PM   #9

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He's right about this being an issue though. I don't know what the solution is though, or if there is one.



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Old 12-08-2007, 11:00 PM   #10

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Disagree.
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Actually, in real-life, don't units get zones in which they are supposed to operate, to avoid friendly fire and that kind of stuff?
Yes but they are likely fairly large in size (compared to a map)

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