Mine teamkill system

Deadfast · 12-02-2007, 10:02 AM

Following this discussion about teamkills caused by mines I decided to create this poll.

The question is:
What should happen if you person places a mine and his teammate gets (team)killed by it ?

Psyrus · 12-02-2007, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadfast

Following this discussion about teamkills caused by mines I decided to create this poll.

The question is:
What should happen if you person places a mine and his teammate gets (team)killed by it ?

Depends on the situation really.. if the engineer has been an absolute tard and mined the only way out for vehicles... then it's 100% his fault for someone taking out the mines blocking the entrance. If, on the other hand, it's the driver who has been too lazy to check for mines (he would have died if it were an enemy mine anyway...) then he should admit fault and learn to look next time. That's my opinion anyway.

HellDuke · 12-02-2007, 10:22 AM

Both are at fault: the engineer because he didn't warn ppl where he planted the mine, though if he did he shouldn't be punished

The driver is at fault because he drove onto the mine knowing it's there or because he didn't check if anyone warned about a mine. Then again if it's like Psyrus said and there are no other ways out then it's not the drivers fault, but that's prety rare... There are only a handfull of such situations and it's not wise driving valuable assets into them.

Engineer · 12-02-2007, 10:29 AM

Rather than asking who's fault it is, we should think about how to prevent such accidents.

Like:
- Make the ground near the mines red so they are easier to spot from a same team.
- As squad leaders can make rally points, why cant engineers make signs for minefields?
- If its damn hard to make sign objects, even a minefield marker on your map would help a lot. (Like you can see all the rallypoints, just change the icon to mine marker)

This is very simple and basic stuff... But is it going to happen, probably not.

HellDuke · 12-02-2007, 10:33 AM

The mine alert for same teams were there before, but i think there was a bug where other teams could see the marker as well.. Guess same prob would be here...

Sgt.Princess · 12-02-2007, 10:48 AM

To qualify my vote: I think the driver should be punished with the standard suicide punishment, not a TK.

BTW, I love your holiday-themed sniper, Deadfast.

[R-CON]MrD · 12-02-2007, 10:51 AM

driver should receive suicide penalty PLUS friendly fire deaths for all he is in charge of making sure they are safe (passengers)

markonymous · 12-02-2007, 10:52 AM

i think we should make it so the engineer has to remember to mark the mine then all ally troops can see the mine. If he doesnt mark it and TKs he gets minus points otherwise he doesnt.

Spec_Operator · 12-02-2007, 11:25 AM

Like i said in the other thread, only suicide punish for the driver. This accident is not worth getting a player kicked.

Brummy · 12-02-2007, 11:28 AM

I think we just should leave it as it is. All these stuff take a lot of time of coding and might even be impossible to code. Every PR Player except for the new players and the smacktards realise that it wasn't the guy that laid the mine that was wrong. And if you actually get a system where the driver gets punished there will be smacktards mining assets for 'fun'.

View Poll Results: What should happen after a car gets TK'd by a friendly mine ?
The "owner" of the mine should be punished (current system).	9	4.97%
The driver of the vehicle should be punsihed.	54	29.83%
It's fault of both - both should be punished.	31	17.13%
It's no one's fault - no one should be punished.	76	41.99%
None of above. I think that ...	11	6.08%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

12-02-2007, 10:02 AM	#1
Deadfast Join Date: Jul 2007 Czech republic Location: Prague Posts: 1,938	Mine teamkill system Following this discussion about teamkills caused by mines I decided to create this poll. The question is: What should happen if you person places a mine and his teammate gets (team)killed by it ?
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12-02-2007, 10:22 AM	#3
HellDuke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 280	Both are at fault: the engineer because he didn't warn ppl where he planted the mine, though if he did he shouldn't be punished The driver is at fault because he drove onto the mine knowing it's there or because he didn't check if anyone warned about a mine. Then again if it's like Psyrus said and there are no other ways out then it's not the drivers fault, but that's prety rare... There are only a handfull of such situations and it's not wise driving valuable assets into them.
	First and foremost - you must have a life. Second - you need to realise what you are doing. Third - confront your motives. Last - stop playing that stupid computer game and go back to work. Never heard of Lithuania? Territory outlined in black!!!

12-02-2007, 10:29 AM	#4
Engineer Join Date: Dec 2006 Europe Posts: 925	Rather than asking who's fault it is, we should think about how to prevent such accidents. Like: - Make the ground near the mines red so they are easier to spot from a same team. - As squad leaders can make rally points, why cant engineers make signs for minefields? - If its damn hard to make sign objects, even a minefield marker on your map would help a lot. (Like you can see all the rallypoints, just change the icon to mine marker) This is very simple and basic stuff... But is it going to happen, probably not.
Engineer Join Date: Dec 2006 Europe Posts: 925

12-02-2007, 10:33 AM	#5
HellDuke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 280	The mine alert for same teams were there before, but i think there was a bug where other teams could see the marker as well.. Guess same prob would be here...
	First and foremost - you must have a life. Second - you need to realise what you are doing. Third - confront your motives. Last - stop playing that stupid computer game and go back to work. Never heard of Lithuania? Territory outlined in black!!!

12-02-2007, 10:48 AM	#6
Sgt.Princess Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 50	To qualify my vote: I think the driver should be punished with the standard suicide punishment, not a TK. BTW, I love your holiday-themed sniper, Deadfast.
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12-02-2007, 10:51 AM	#7
[R-CON]MrD PR Contributor Join Date: May 2006 Location: York Posts: 3,200	driver should receive suicide penalty PLUS friendly fire deaths for all he is in charge of making sure they are safe (passengers)
	[R-MOD]Mongolian Dude: AH man, sarcasm is so hard to get across the web, even if we are both british [R-DEV]Jaymz: That has to be...the most epic response to a welcome thread I have ever seen. [R-CON]Mr.D ladies and gentlemen!

12-02-2007, 10:52 AM	#8
markonymous Join Date: Oct 2007 Sweden Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 1,452	i think we should make it so the engineer has to remember to mark the mine then all ally troops can see the mine. If he doesnt mark it and TKs he gets minus points otherwise he doesnt.

12-02-2007, 11:25 AM	#9
Spec_Operator Join Date: Sep 2007 Germany Location: Frankfurt (Main) Posts: 1,559	Like i said in the other thread, only suicide punish for the driver. This accident is not worth getting a player kicked.

12-02-2007, 11:28 AM	#10
Brummy Join Date: Jun 2007 United Kingdom Location: Brumtown, UK Posts: 5,369	I think we just should leave it as it is. All these stuff take a lot of time of coding and might even be impossible to code. Every PR Player except for the new players and the smacktards realise that it wasn't the guy that laid the mine that was wrong. And if you actually get a system where the driver gets punished there will be smacktards mining assets for 'fun'.

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