Recoil- a comparison

pasfreak · 10-29-2007, 07:03 PM

I want to see more of this...

YouTube Video

YouTube Video

instead of this...

YouTube Video

and this

YouTube Video

THE RECOIL MODEL NEEDS SOME ENERGY!!!

give it some more "jump" and "snap"

also, I think the amount of recoil should vary depending on if you are supported (i.e. prone)

[R-DEV]bosco · 10-29-2007, 07:08 PM

Great comparisons you got there, first video shows a carbine with Eotech, second shows a BIPOD mounted AR15 mod, while the first PR vid shows the 4x zoom ACOG placeholder.

Also, YouTube videos are known as the ultimate proof for everything...

pasfreak · 10-29-2007, 07:14 PM

well i just meant i would like to see more of a really quick "snap" or "flick" to the recoil, instead of the really smooth straight upwards motion we have now

i mean in all honesty, in any gun you shoot, the force as a reaction to the bullet leaving the muzzle pushes straight back on the bolt, which in turn pushes back on the weapon. the amount of up/down/whatever is dependent on the stiffness of the object that is holding it in place. if it is your arms, the weapon will look somewhat like it does in the videos, it doesn't just go straight up, and its not as smooth or as slow as it is in game.

Sgt_Canadian_Floss · 10-29-2007, 07:22 PM

If youre talking about the fact that the rifles in the videos have alot less recoil and that you would like to see that in the game... well no.
Because in the vids, the guys are obviously putting pressure on the rifle to counter the recoil, thus having a better aim.
Ingame this is represented by the fact that you use youre mouse to counter the recoil by moving it downwards,or sideways (whatever direction is needed to counter the effect) try it, its reallity.

pasfreak · 10-29-2007, 07:29 PM

No its not necessarily that- if I was talking about that, it would be pointless to start this thread, because that has been suggested many times before.

what i'm saying is that the recoil model right now is too slow and too smooth. It should be much quicker and more jumpy.

Swe_Olsson · 10-29-2007, 07:32 PM

recoil is fine

[R-CON]nedlands1 · 10-29-2007, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pasfreak

also, I think the amount of recoil should vary depending on if you are supported (i.e. prone)

You can't change the recoil between stances. Instead the random deviation is altered. There is a modifier though, which returns the barrel to more or less its original position after firing. This results in comparatively tight groups for semi-auto fire and wide groups for fully auto fire. Currently, all the support weapons, except the HK21E for some strange reason, have it.

Sgt_Canadian_Floss · 10-29-2007, 11:09 PM

now that you say it pastfreak, the recoil animation is a bit slow, yes, then i agree, a snappier animation would be great.

[R-DEV]Jaymz · 10-30-2007, 05:11 AM

There's a setting called gobackonrecoil which we might implement in 0.7, along with loads of recoil adjustment.

[R-CON]nedlands1 · 10-30-2007, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Jaymz

There's a setting called gobackonrecoil which we might implement in 0.7, along with loads of recoil adjustment.

w00t my suggestion may be implemented.

10-29-2007, 07:14 PM	#3
pasfreak Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 648	well i just meant i would like to see more of a really quick "snap" or "flick" to the recoil, instead of the really smooth straight upwards motion we have now i mean in all honesty, in any gun you shoot, the force as a reaction to the bullet leaving the muzzle pushes straight back on the bolt, which in turn pushes back on the weapon. the amount of up/down/whatever is dependent on the stiffness of the object that is holding it in place. if it is your arms, the weapon will look somewhat like it does in the videos, it doesn't just go straight up, and its not as smooth or as slow as it is in game.
pasfreak Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 648	PAS "You can't expect to have the DEVS make everything idiot proof....(though that is an arguable point due to the generous number of said idiots that do play the game)." "next time I catch you in the bushes outside my place, I'm skipping the 911 call and going straight to 1911." -unknown youtuber

10-29-2007, 07:22 PM	#4
Sgt_Canadian_Floss Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 267	If youre talking about the fact that the rifles in the videos have alot less recoil and that you would like to see that in the game... well no. Because in the vids, the guys are obviously putting pressure on the rifle to counter the recoil, thus having a better aim. Ingame this is represented by the fact that you use youre mouse to counter the recoil by moving it downwards,or sideways (whatever direction is needed to counter the effect) try it, its reallity.
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10-29-2007, 07:29 PM	#5
pasfreak Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 648	No its not necessarily that- if I was talking about that, it would be pointless to start this thread, because that has been suggested many times before. what i'm saying is that the recoil model right now is too slow and too smooth. It should be much quicker and more jumpy.
pasfreak Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 648	PAS "You can't expect to have the DEVS make everything idiot proof....(though that is an arguable point due to the generous number of said idiots that do play the game)." "next time I catch you in the bushes outside my place, I'm skipping the 911 call and going straight to 1911." -unknown youtuber

10-29-2007, 11:09 PM	#8
Sgt_Canadian_Floss Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 267	now that you say it pastfreak, the recoil animation is a bit slow, yes, then i agree, a snappier animation would be great.
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10-29-2007, 07:08 PM	#2
[R-DEV]bosco PR Developer Join Date: Dec 2006 Germany Location: K - Town Posts: 11,087	Great comparisons you got there, first video shows a carbine with Eotech, second shows a BIPOD mounted AR15 mod, while the first PR vid shows the 4x zoom ACOG placeholder. Also, YouTube videos are known as the ultimate proof for everything...

10-29-2007, 07:32 PM	#6
Swe_Olsson PR Beta Testing Team Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Sweden Location: Sweden Posts: 1,003	recoil is fine

10-30-2007, 05:11 AM	#9
[R-DEV]Jaymz PR Operations Lead Join Date: Apr 2006 Ireland Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,772	There's a setting called gobackonrecoil which we might implement in 0.7, along with loads of recoil adjustment.

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