Less Recoil to the Left but More to the Right

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Shouldn't all of the handheld, shoulder borne, firearms have a tendency to recoil to the right when fired? This would be due to the rifle being away from the pivot point and on the right side. All it would take is to change a few lines of code.

eg in the case of the M16A2:
"ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-0.4/0.4/0"
"ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/X/Y/0",
where -0.4 < X < 0 and Y > 0.4.

This, to the best of my knowledge, would result in less recoil to the left but more to the right compared to originally.

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Double thread. My bad. x.x

[Outlawz]

I thought, the gun goes up in-game, not sideways? o.o

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Originally Posted by Outlawz

I thought, the gun goes up in-game, not sideways? o.o

Most guns(if not all) go up but with a greater effect than sideways. Eg the M16A2 has, "ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/0.1/0.6/0" which means that the gun will recoil upwards between 0.1 and 0.6 units (degrees I believe).

EDIT: "ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/0.1/0.6/0" should be: "ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/0.65/1.55/0" and in my original post, "ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-0.4/0.4/0"
"ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/X/Y/0",
where -0.4 < X < 0 and Y > 0.4.
should be
"ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-0.5/0.5/0"
"ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/X/Y/0",
where -0.5 < X < 0 and Y > 0.5.

[Waaah_Wah]

I think that recoil should be a little "random". Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it doesnt go that much up, sometime it goes more to the left sometimes... Well you get the point

[AnRK]

It's already random though isn't it?

If rifles act in this manner though, wouldn't you tense your arms in a way that would minimise that kinda thing though? Never fired a proper gun before so I dunno if it's possible.

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

I think that recoil should be a little "random". Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it doesnt go that much up, sometime it goes more to the left sometimes... Well you get the point

It is random. That is what the "CRD_UNIFORM" modifier is for. It stands for continuous random distribution_Uniform. This means that every value, within the designated range, has an equal an equal chance of happening.

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Originally Posted by AnRK

It's already random though isn't it?

If rifles act in this manner though, wouldn't you tense your arms in a way that would minimise that kinda thing though? Never fired a proper gun before so I dunno if it's possible.

It is not as accurate to shoot if you are tired. Tensing up fatigues your muscles and makes you tired as well as making you tremble. However, in a combat situation one would tend to get a bit tight. Maybe for the sniper and marksmen weapons the recoil should be randomly to the right and never to the left, in order to reflect a calm and controlled firing position. The normal rifle could have a small range of recoil values to the left and a larger set of values to the right. This would reflect a slightly tensed up, individual's firing behavior in a combat situation.

[WNxLT7]

The m16 doesn't need any more recoil. It already has more recoil then it does in real life even though in real life it has the least recoil out of every rifle in game. don't you think it's kind of weird that the PKM can be controlled on full auto more so than the M16 and L85?

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

Originally Posted by WNxLT7

The m16 doesn't need any more recoil. It already has more recoil then it does in real life even though in real life it has the least recoil out of every rifle in game. don't you think it's kind of weird that the PKM can be controlled on full auto more so than the M16 and L85?

I'm not saying that recoil needs to be increased. What I am saying is that there needs to be more recoil to the right and less to the left due to rifle's positioning relative to the body.

The M16 that you refer to does not have fully automatic fire capability. The reason the PKM has better recoil handling characteristics is because it is a GPMG. Although it fires a substantially heavier round, it fires it at a slower speed and at a slower rate of fire. Also the thing weighs far more then the average assault rifle so that helps dissipate the recoil too.