Time to can the A129 Mangusta

BetterDeadThanRed · 10-04-2007, 06:29 PM

WARNING! Read this thread without a change of pants at your own risk.

Ladies and gentlemen, mostly the latter, the time has arrived, a time to take China's military to the next level. As many of you know, the BF2 Z-10 attack helicopter is actually the Italian made A129 Mangusta while the actual real life Z-10 has remained a undisputed assumption but only through fleeting images leaked on the internet, but that time has changed.

Behold.

Link.

Can't say I didn't warn ya.

LtSoucy · 10-04-2007, 06:33 PM

sweet. I want to fly this thing tonight please!

~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ · 10-04-2007, 06:34 PM

The picture doesn't display for me.
I have one question though "The Z-10 helicopter is powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67C turboshaft engines with Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC). The engines have a maximum continuous power of 1,531hp (1,142kw) each".

???????
They import them or make them under license ?

BetterDeadThanRed · 10-04-2007, 06:37 PM

The Chinese military isn't exactly known for using its own equipment, in fact the article says the Z-10 is fitted to deploy AGM-114 Hellfires.

Ragni<RangersPL> · 10-04-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmedDrunk&Angry

They import them or make them under license ?

Industrial espionage maybe? Just a theory

(I'm not accusing anyone)

~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ · 10-04-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterDeadThanRed

The Chinese military isn't exactly known for using its own equipment, in fact the article says the Z-10 is fitted to deploy AGM-114 Hellfires.

I think you misread that.
This is what I saw.
China is currently developing a new HJ-10 anti-tank guided missile (ATGM), which was said to be comparable to the U.S. AGM-114 Hellfire

BetterDeadThanRed · 10-04-2007, 06:45 PM

Whoops, oh snap ADA. Could have sworn that I read that somewhere else though, and doesn't really change the fact that the Chinese aren't known for making their own military equipment, but props to you for catching that so quickly.

NYgurkha · 10-04-2007, 07:31 PM

im sure they are using the P&W engine until they develop their own indigenous product. Who knows, they might just use it under license.

[R-DEV]CAS_117 · 10-05-2007, 01:23 AM

The point of this is lost on me.

Tweaky · 10-05-2007, 01:39 AM

The Chinese have tested the Z-10 as a prototype, but I don't believe the Z-10 is really in active combat in their country.

In 2003 they tested a prototype, that is all I know. And FAS concurs that the Italian Army is the only army to have this in their inventory.

I don't think it is time to 'can' the chopper though, because it is the only best option the PLAA has to have a competitive chopper in this game. And since this game is based on fairly modern rules, I don't think it is wrong that the PLAA has this Z-10 in the game, it's just to give them something which is somewhat accurate. They currently use a Z-9 transport helo, and I am pretty sure that is based off some other country's model.

Lord knows how many other knock-offs they've made of aircraft and weapons

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10-04-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
BetterDeadThanRed German Forces Mod Lead Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,521	Time to can the A129 Mangusta WARNING! Read this thread without a change of pants at your own risk. Ladies and gentlemen, mostly the latter, the time has arrived, a time to take China's military to the next level. As many of you know, the BF2 Z-10 attack helicopter is actually the Italian made A129 Mangusta while the actual real life Z-10 has remained a undisputed assumption but only through fleeting images leaked on the internet, but that time has changed. Behold. Link. Can't say I didn't warn ya.
	German Forces Mod Status

10-04-2007, 06:33 PM	#2
LtSoucy Join Date: Mar 2007 United States of America Location: Lowell MA USA Posts: 2,864	sweet. I want to fly this thing tonight please!
	2Recon: "We the people demand Lt.Soucy. Its like getting to see a glimpse of Jesus!"

10-04-2007, 06:37 PM	#4
BetterDeadThanRed German Forces Mod Lead Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,521	The Chinese military isn't exactly known for using its own equipment, in fact the article says the Z-10 is fitted to deploy AGM-114 Hellfires.
	German Forces Mod Status

10-04-2007, 06:45 PM	#7
BetterDeadThanRed German Forces Mod Lead Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,521	Whoops, oh snap ADA. Could have sworn that I read that somewhere else though, and doesn't really change the fact that the Chinese aren't known for making their own military equipment, but props to you for catching that so quickly.
	German Forces Mod Status

10-05-2007, 01:23 AM	#9
[R-DEV]CAS_117 PR Coder Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edmonton AB Canada Posts: 913	The point of this is lost on me.
	One is none. Two is one.

10-04-2007, 06:34 PM	#3
~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 6,971	The picture doesn't display for me. I have one question though "The Z-10 helicopter is powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67C turboshaft engines with Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC). The engines have a maximum continuous power of 1,531hp (1,142kw) each". ??????? They import them or make them under license ?

10-04-2007, 07:31 PM	#8
NYgurkha Join Date: Nov 2006 United States of America Location: New York Posts: 920	im sure they are using the P&W engine until they develop their own indigenous product. Who knows, they might just use it under license.

10-05-2007, 01:39 AM	#10
Tweaky Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 112	The Chinese have tested the Z-10 as a prototype, but I don't believe the Z-10 is really in active combat in their country. In 2003 they tested a prototype, that is all I know. And FAS concurs that the Italian Army is the only army to have this in their inventory. I don't think it is time to 'can' the chopper though, because it is the only best option the PLAA has to have a competitive chopper in this game. And since this game is based on fairly modern rules, I don't think it is wrong that the PLAA has this Z-10 in the game, it's just to give them something which is somewhat accurate. They currently use a Z-9 transport helo, and I am pretty sure that is based off some other country's model. Lord knows how many other knock-offs they've made of aircraft and weapons .

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