Black Hawk improvement

[R-CON]MAINERROR · 10-04-2007, 07:36 AM

Hey guys,

I've searched for a similar thread but no result. So i'll let it flow ...

IRL the Black Hawk has a Pilot in command and copilot. It would be nice to have a copilot in the helo which has a free-look ability and maybe a zoom function.

It'd be also nice to have a UH-60M Black Hawk for the US. Army, a MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP) also US. Army and a MH-60R Seahawk US. Navy

The UH-60M Black Hawk for standard US. Army deployments as a heavy transport helicopter.
The MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP) for special operations and critical operations from the US. Army (could be used especially on Kashan Desert).
The MH-60R Seahawk for standard US. Navy (USMC) deployments from the Wasp.

I know that someone has to model these versions but i'll try to model the
UH-60M first and then if the model is ok and it doesn't take too much time i could model the other versions.

IRL the pilot has to arm the Miniguns for the crewchiefs. I think that it should be the same for PR throug pushing the "R" button as a pilot.

What do you think about this suggestions?

Hanniz · 10-04-2007, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAINERROR

IRL the Black Hawk has a Pilot in command and copilot. It would be nice to have a copilot in the helo which has a free-look ability and maybe a zoom function.

I dont think we'll get many players to grab the pilot kit just to be a co-pilot. Its like with the Merlin. How many dedicated "bay door openers" are there out there today?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAINERROR

IRL the pilot has to arm the Miniguns for the crewchiefs. I think that it should be the same for PR throug pushing the "R" button as a pilot.

Hmm, a good idea in my opinion. It will get rid of those retards who randomly opens fire at friendly personel. Hopefully it can be done without too much of an effort from the Devs.

Ragni<RangersPL> · 10-04-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAINERROR

It would be nice to have a copilot in the helo which has a free-look ability and maybe a zoom function.

I like this idea, right now copilot is kind of useless.

AnRK · 10-04-2007, 09:49 AM

Only from is theres little enough people on the field at the moment as it is, we don't need another one taken away from battle by forcing people to have co-pilots to do pretty menial tasks. I like the idea of having someone in control of when weapons systems are activated though, but could that responsibility not be placed on the pilot?

[R-CON]MAINERROR · 10-04-2007, 10:25 AM

The Minigun arming and disarming thing should be done be the pilot and not by the copilot. The copilot is just to have a spotter on board and it is not required.

Expendable Grunt · 10-04-2007, 10:41 AM

IMO they should have kept the 7th seat in the merlin, and maybe given an 8th.

Rachio · 10-04-2007, 07:30 PM

I normally have a copilot in little bird for gun runs. but the copilot seat should do much more cause in the little bird i get shot out of side by sniper and my copilot cant warm up engine in time while falling like when pilot seat becomes open copilot takes control or you can press something and switch who has control for when people go afk

[R-CON]MAINERROR · 10-04-2007, 07:47 PM

Yeah such a functon would be very nice but i dont think that it can be implemented.

daranz · 10-04-2007, 09:19 PM

A nice thing to have for copilots in light choppers would be some sort of zoom. That would allow the chopper to perform a recon role, and would give the copilot something to do.

As to miniguns, wouldn't it make more sense to have the M240s in their place?

DarkTalon · 10-04-2007, 11:42 PM

the blackhawk does have some roll issues, might want to sort that out before we start changing skins and features.

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10-04-2007, 07:36 AM	#1
[R-CON]MAINERROR PR Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Austria Location: Styria Posts: 1,069	Black Hawk improvement Hey guys, I've searched for a similar thread but no result. So i'll let it flow ... IRL the Black Hawk has a Pilot in command and copilot. It would be nice to have a copilot in the helo which has a free-look ability and maybe a zoom function. It'd be also nice to have a UH-60M Black Hawk for the US. Army, a MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP) also US. Army and a MH-60R Seahawk US. Navy The UH-60M Black Hawk for standard US. Army deployments as a heavy transport helicopter. The MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP) for special operations and critical operations from the US. Army (could be used especially on Kashan Desert). The MH-60R Seahawk for standard US. Navy (USMC) deployments from the Wasp. I know that someone has to model these versions but i'll try to model the UH-60M first and then if the model is ok and it doesn't take too much time i could model the other versions. IRL the pilot has to arm the Miniguns for the crewchiefs. I think that it should be the same for PR throug pushing the "R" button as a pilot. What do you think about this suggestions?

10-04-2007, 10:41 AM	#6
Expendable Grunt Join Date: Mar 2007 Mongolia Location: Hollywood, MD Posts: 3,655	IMO they should have kept the 7th seat in the merlin, and maybe given an 8th.
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10-04-2007, 07:30 PM	#7
Rachio Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: oklahoma Posts: 55	I normally have a copilot in little bird for gun runs. but the copilot seat should do much more cause in the little bird i get shot out of side by sniper and my copilot cant warm up engine in time while falling like when pilot seat becomes open copilot takes control or you can press something and switch who has control for when people go afk
Rachio Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: oklahoma Posts: 55

10-04-2007, 09:19 PM	#9
daranz Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,401	A nice thing to have for copilots in light choppers would be some sort of zoom. That would allow the chopper to perform a recon role, and would give the copilot something to do. As to miniguns, wouldn't it make more sense to have the M240s in their place?
daranz Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,401

10-04-2007, 09:49 AM	#4
AnRK Join Date: Mar 2007 United Kingdom Location: Near Leeds Posts: 1,559	Only from is theres little enough people on the field at the moment as it is, we don't need another one taken away from battle by forcing people to have co-pilots to do pretty menial tasks. I like the idea of having someone in control of when weapons systems are activated though, but could that responsibility not be placed on the pilot?

10-04-2007, 10:25 AM	#5
[R-CON]MAINERROR PR Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Austria Location: Styria Posts: 1,069	The Minigun arming and disarming thing should be done be the pilot and not by the copilot. The copilot is just to have a spotter on board and it is not required.

10-04-2007, 07:47 PM	#8
[R-CON]MAINERROR PR Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Austria Location: Styria Posts: 1,069	Yeah such a functon would be very nice but i dont think that it can be implemented.

10-04-2007, 11:42 PM	#10
DarkTalon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: under a rock Posts: 703	the blackhawk does have some roll issues, might want to sort that out before we start changing skins and features.

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