Aircraft suggestions....

Sun Tzu · 06-25-2007, 04:53 AM

Before the flaming begins I want you all to know that I DID search the forums for both theses suggestions and even looked at the "Already suggested seggestions" before posting.

First of all, my most sincere "Thank you" to the developers for providing me with the gaming experience that I have been searching for since I started gaming some twenty five years ago!

Ok here are the suggestions...

#1 Are speed brakes possible on the aircraft? I know that when I pull my throttle all the way back the plane slows and even goes backwards. However it slows down too slow (if that makes sense).

The A-10 and F-16 both are equipped with speed brakes IRL. They use these to slow down when landing and also to obtain optimum speeds for ACM (Ariel Combat Maneuvers). On some of my other flight sims the deceleration speed is pretty drastic. No new animation is required just the results of engaging speed brakes.

#2 What is your thought on adding 4 to 6 WP marking rockets to Little Bird and the MEC/Chinese counterpart?

These rockets have no splash damage, but are used to mark targets for Close Air Support. Also to let squads who are moving across the desert know where and enemy tank location might be. Basically, it would make the small helo's into sort of a reconnaissance asset.

With the view distance being increased it would help squads determine their best course of action.

Just some thoughts I had!

Keep up the awesome work guys!!!!

VipersGhost · 06-25-2007, 04:59 AM

Cool suggestions...the little bird attack designation I like I think

DarkTalon · 06-25-2007, 05:02 AM

don't know about speed brakes, but in DC when you pressed S they came up on the mig. as for the targeting rockets it could act similar to the Molotov and create a target box.

HellDuke · 06-25-2007, 05:28 AM

Nice ideas. Especialy liked the one with the speed breaks, because it's a bit difficult landing the aircraft sometimes on such short distances

Flanker15 · 06-25-2007, 05:32 AM

Some planes already have speed brakes on their graphics model (they open when the plane goes below a certain speed along with the landing gear). I'm guessing you're refering to a button press that will slow your plane down much faster than S.
WP rockets would be nicer for ground forces because most of the time it's the aircraft that have trouble finding targets rather than the troops! Maybe you could stick them on the recon attack choppers for marking targets they cant hit?

Sun Tzu · 06-25-2007, 05:39 AM

Well let's ay that your in a Little Bird scouting the area and the rest of your squad is moving to a flag. They can't see the tank that's just over the hill waiting to ambush. So you put a couple of WP rockets in the vacinity and tell the squad leader "There is a tank just over the hill. I marked it with smoke".

This would be especially helpful if they ever get rid of the mini map.

More importantly to mark targets for close air support. This would give the pilot a reference point.

Apheirox · 06-25-2007, 06:02 AM

Maybe just make S slow down planes a lot faster?

101 bassdrive · 06-25-2007, 06:50 AM

the airbrake idea sounds intresting although I honestly believe it might cause more problems than it solves.
think about throttling down, especially all fellas who use keyboard, and your jet almost instantly loses all speed.. what happens. jep, you stall. itd be a hell to try to vaporize a slow BH when you constantly have to tip W and S + afterburner to keep it more or less in air.
IMO it would have to be a seperate key.
LB for target designation? sounds neat, darktalon might have a easy practical solution to it. but what would it be good for? the warthhog and frogfoot already have laser designation.. ?

Sun Tzu · 06-25-2007, 09:54 AM

I haven't had all that much time in the A-10 (it's usually being used or destroyed). The target designator is for Vehicles not infantry or buildings. If the Little bird was flying around and saw a particular problem in a building or something like that, he could mark the target to give the attacking plane something to oriemt his attack run on.

The speedbrakes should not make you lose all airspeed instantly, just decelerate the aircraft faster than just reducing the throttle. You may only have it on for a second or two on approach for a landing, or you may have it on for several seconds as you are in a attack dive to give you a little more time to line up the reticle on the target.

[R-COM]Outlawz · 06-25-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 101 bassdrive

IMO it would have to be a seperate key.

Agree

Hows about Shift+S, since we already have Shift+W for acceleration/speed boost?

06-25-2007, 04:53 AM	#1
Sun Tzu Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 59	Aircraft suggestions.... Before the flaming begins I want you all to know that I DID search the forums for both theses suggestions and even looked at the "Already suggested seggestions" before posting. First of all, my most sincere "Thank you" to the developers for providing me with the gaming experience that I have been searching for since I started gaming some twenty five years ago! Ok here are the suggestions... #1 Are speed brakes possible on the aircraft? I know that when I pull my throttle all the way back the plane slows and even goes backwards. However it slows down too slow (if that makes sense). The A-10 and F-16 both are equipped with speed brakes IRL. They use these to slow down when landing and also to obtain optimum speeds for ACM (Ariel Combat Maneuvers). On some of my other flight sims the deceleration speed is pretty drastic. No new animation is required just the results of engaging speed brakes. #2 What is your thought on adding 4 to 6 WP marking rockets to Little Bird and the MEC/Chinese counterpart? These rockets have no splash damage, but are used to mark targets for Close Air Support. Also to let squads who are moving across the desert know where and enemy tank location might be. Basically, it would make the small helo's into sort of a reconnaissance asset. With the view distance being increased it would help squads determine their best course of action. Just some thoughts I had! Keep up the awesome work guys!!!!
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06-25-2007, 05:32 AM	#5
Flanker15 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 213	Some planes already have speed brakes on their graphics model (they open when the plane goes below a certain speed along with the landing gear). I'm guessing you're refering to a button press that will slow your plane down much faster than S. WP rockets would be nicer for ground forces because most of the time it's the aircraft that have trouble finding targets rather than the troops! Maybe you could stick them on the recon attack choppers for marking targets they cant hit?
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06-25-2007, 05:39 AM	#6
Sun Tzu Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 59	Well let's ay that your in a Little Bird scouting the area and the rest of your squad is moving to a flag. They can't see the tank that's just over the hill waiting to ambush. So you put a couple of WP rockets in the vacinity and tell the squad leader "There is a tank just over the hill. I marked it with smoke". This would be especially helpful if they ever get rid of the mini map. More importantly to mark targets for close air support. This would give the pilot a reference point.
Sun Tzu Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 59

06-25-2007, 09:54 AM	#9
Sun Tzu Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 59	I haven't had all that much time in the A-10 (it's usually being used or destroyed). The target designator is for Vehicles not infantry or buildings. If the Little bird was flying around and saw a particular problem in a building or something like that, he could mark the target to give the attacking plane something to oriemt his attack run on. The speedbrakes should not make you lose all airspeed instantly, just decelerate the aircraft faster than just reducing the throttle. You may only have it on for a second or two on approach for a landing, or you may have it on for several seconds as you are in a attack dive to give you a little more time to line up the reticle on the target.
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06-25-2007, 04:59 AM	#2
VipersGhost Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,125	Cool suggestions...the little bird attack designation I like I think

06-25-2007, 05:02 AM	#3
DarkTalon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: under a rock Posts: 703	don't know about speed brakes, but in DC when you pressed S they came up on the mig. as for the targeting rockets it could act similar to the Molotov and create a target box.

06-25-2007, 05:28 AM	#4
HellDuke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 280	Nice ideas. Especialy liked the one with the speed breaks, because it's a bit difficult landing the aircraft sometimes on such short distances

06-25-2007, 06:02 AM	#7
Apheirox Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 254	Maybe just make S slow down planes a lot faster?

06-25-2007, 06:50 AM	#8
101 bassdrive Join Date: Feb 2007 Sweden Location: Sundsvall Posts: 480	the airbrake idea sounds intresting although I honestly believe it might cause more problems than it solves. think about throttling down, especially all fellas who use keyboard, and your jet almost instantly loses all speed.. what happens. jep, you stall. itd be a hell to try to vaporize a slow BH when you constantly have to tip W and S + afterburner to keep it more or less in air. IMO it would have to be a seperate key. LB for target designation? sounds neat, darktalon might have a easy practical solution to it. but what would it be good for? the warthhog and frogfoot already have laser designation.. ?

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