Changes for Insurgents

[Outlawz]

Been playing Basrah/Archer a bit more lately and noticed some stuff that needs a bit of improvement.

PKMs. The only SAW that has recoil. All other three (M249, QBB95, Hk21) have absolutely no recoil, yet PKM which is also supposed to be very heavy, has.

SVDs. Not just Basrah, Archer also needs more Mosins/SVDs. While USMC gets five M14s, two M40s, and their regular riflemen have 4x zoom scopes, Insurgents get at most one Mosin or two. I don't really know what Insurgent force would go into countryside battles without some sort of hunting/sharpshooter rifles.

I am aware that Insurgents are supposed to be at a disadvantage, but IMO that disadvantage shouldn't be reflected in the fact, that Insurgents don't get any special weaponry and heavy weaponry that recoils. Right now Archer is a shooting gallery for USMC as Insurgents have little to keep their heads down in the open without quickly getting shot back in the head because they were shooting the wrong pixel :/

Safe zones - tbh Insurgents should have some sort of a safe zone on both Insurgency maps, where they can spawn in without getting into a fire fight or shot immediately and can pick up their kits without them being stolen or some GB/US sniper camping somewhere waiting for an Insurgent to pick them up so he can shoot him on spot. I'm talking about adding dome of death for the GB/US on certain locations, if you need the actual in-game lingo to understand.

On Basrah that should be the mosque IMO.
Now I know the deal that's going on if we should be fighting in mosques in-game or not and the issue around the Muttrah mosque. But let's say, that GB at start has no intel on Insurgents actually being there or they could seriously hurt their relation with the civilians if they attacked the mosque or similar.

On Archer the safe zone should also be the mosque or some basements in the city and the spawn in the NE part of the map.

Just as a note, the SVDs/Mosin should be stored in these areas, I saw it a lot of times where GB on Basrah would steal SVDs and Mosins and go around sniping Insurgents instead of looking for the caches.


Discuss.

[Ghost1800]

I honestly don't think the Insurgents need any more advantages on Basrah... I'd agree some changes might be needed for Operation Archer though.

[SGT.JOKER]

I agree that they could use more scoped weaponry. They do well enough not but since in real life Ive seen pictures of more SVD's in Iraq then moisins, I think there should be of each (2moisins and 2 SVDs) placed on each insurgency map, just to be fair against the conventional armies better equipment. As far as the mosque idea...I dont really like it to be honest...

[Conman51=US=]

on the MG..i think the problem is we should ADD recoil to teh other SAW's....maybe just a few more scoped weapons like 1 or 2...safe zone..no...


but not for basrah (except adding recoil to the SAW's

[[R-CON]Alex6714]

At least giving the insurgents a way out of the palace, and putting the pickup kits not all in one location would probably do.

[Outlawz]

Well maybe not the Basrah mosque, but still a place where the important Insurgent kits are hidden with British/US having hard/no access to that area would be nice, I doubt Insurgents hide their sniper rifles on a market stand in the middle of the city.

[moj]

So is it confirmed that the insurgents will have the SVD on Basrah in .08?

Please say it is so. As SGT.JOKER has already stated, the SVD is used a lot more than the Nagant in Iraq, it seems stupid to not have the SVD in there.

It would also be nice to see the RPK as a pick up kit too, as well as the PKM (and yes the LMG's should all be standardized - either no recoil or recoil, for all).

[fludblud]

and another thing, ive never actually heard of Mousins being used by insurgents. HOWEVER, as both Afghanistan and Iraq were former british colonies, i have read of instances where Lee Enfields were used instead.

[[R-DEV]fuzzhead]

yes there will be a very small amount of SVD available.

[NickO]

Not to mention on Archer the 45min JDAM and the fact that the PKM overheats 1/3rd of the time it takes the other LMG's to overheat. Its actually an incredible disadvantage in CQC.