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Old 06-28-2008, 01:56 PM   #1

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Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

Its my personal feeling, that any not military used car should be available to both sides. Nothing more annoying than seeing an enemy teams vehicle, when your stuck out in the middle of nowhere, but you cant drive it.

I think we should keep Jets, Helis, AA, Tanks and APCs as team specific, because their complexity. But the land rovers and technicals and civilian cars, in my opinion should be driveable by all teams.

If i go to Iraq, and i'm going to steal a car, I think as long as i know the fundamentals such as starting the car, and accelerating, I should be able to drive it. Obviously vehicles with weapon systems, such as Tanks would be too complicated for opposing nations to understand from a realistic point of view.

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:05 PM   #2

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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

no, have you even seen any footage of troops jacking an enmeys car?

IRL it wouldnt happen, you should have sorted out better transport for yourself or not got into that situation



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Old 06-28-2008, 02:09 PM   #3
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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

did he said enemy CARS?

he said CIVILIAN cars , neutral vehicles , driveable by both teams , and i agree. it hapened a lot in WW2 , and it dosent hapend nowadays becaouse there isnt any major conflict going now .
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:12 PM   #4

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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

i agree with u veritas

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:17 PM   #5

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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

My approximate list of things that should be drivable by all:

Boats
ATVs
Dirtbikes
HMMVWs(only the 50 cal variant)
Land Rovers
Vodniks
NanJing(the Chinese equivalent to the Vodnik)
Militia Pickup
Insurgent Pickup
Civilian Car(NOT including the bomb car variant)
Civilian Pickup

I mean, it's not exactly hard to get in a different car and drive it, if you know how to drive one. The only difficulty I can see, is people from other armies using the Land Rover(damn brits and their wrong side of the road!), but that's actually simulated pretty well by the player. Personally, I find it awkward to drive the land rover over other cars.


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Old 06-28-2008, 02:27 PM   #6
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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

Defiantly not, that just brings back Vbf2. This would be a huge mistake allowing EVERY player on the battlefield to take an enemy car, it would be unrealistic and mass confusion. The only way that I see this becoming a reality is to grant the special forces class with the ability to drive enemy vehicles. But that is as far as it should go in my opinion.



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Old 06-28-2008, 02:32 PM   #7
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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

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Originally Posted by darkwarrior666 View Post
My approximate list of things that should be drivable by all:

Boats
ATVs
Dirtbikes
HMMVWs(only the 50 cal variant)
Land Rovers
Vodniks
NanJing(the Chinese equivalent to the Vodnik)
Militia Pickup
Insurgent Pickup
Civilian Car(NOT including the bomb car variant)
Civilian Pickup

I mean, it's not exactly hard to get in a different car and drive it, if you know how to drive one. The only difficulty I can see, is people from other armies using the Land Rover(damn brits and their wrong side of the road!), but that's actually simulated pretty well by the player. Personally, I find it awkward to drive the land rover over other cars.
you are asking too much , i said NEUTRAL cars driveable by both teams , as the white pickup truck or the civilians cars in basrah , etc .
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:51 PM   #8

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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

Bikes, neutral cars and boats, that sound just the amount of fair to me.

Wondering though if it could work, or either you can drive every vehicle, or only your team assign vehicles?
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:58 PM   #9

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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

What Veritas is suggesting is possible, just unlock the cars in the code when placing the cars. Other vehicles like tanks can still be team locked to the proper team. That's a bit of the engine that gives leeway.

I believe all vehicles were originally teamlocked so when someone ditched it, the grey empty vehicle icon seen in vBF2 would not pop out of nowhere and ruin the stealth. Also, it's rather unrealistic for the grey icon to pop out of nowhere on your map.

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Old 06-28-2008, 04:03 PM   #10
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Re: Civilian Cars driven by both teams.

On those cars the gray icon can be removed in the file with all the icons, so it would not show up unless someone is in there.

The PR python code, I believe, teamlocks any vehicle permanently after it has been used. This is why the first team to get the bikes on basrah is the only team that can use them.

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