MEC basic kit weapons

[Spec_Operator]

Right now we have a quite funny thing happening from time to time.

The basic kits have the G3A3. Officer and Scoped Rifleman have a Scope on it.

Now, the difference between Scoped Rifleman and unscoped Rifleman is only the Scope.

But the G3 is only useful at some range in game. The recoil is huge. The G3 sucks in CQB. So there is no real reason to chose the version with ironsights.

For CQB, some people started using the crewman kit, because it has an MP5. The MP5 sucks where the G3 is good, but rocks where the G3 sucks. It has very little recoil and is useful at CQ.

Now, since it has been talked about in a thread in the infantry tactics forum, i think it may be worth giving it its own thread:

What about giving the non-scoped rifleman an MP5, or adding a kit thats like a rifleman rifleman kit, just without a rifle but with the MP5?

The player could chose between the scoped G3, a weapon for really long range, or the MP5 a CQB weapon.

Another idea would be giving the Engineer the MP5. As "PDW" (well, not really) and in combination with the door braching shotgun, as weapon for clearing rooms.

Since the MEC is fictional, you can do anything with their equipment, that would make any sense. And a bit assymetrical balance is never bad i think - the MEC faction would get a bit different from the others by having two extremes, the almost-marksman-G3 and the CQB-MP5 instead of an allround rifle.

Or is it unrealistic?
Would it hurt gameplay?
Was it even worth creating a thread?
Should i just stfu?
Where is the toilet, anyway? Why do forums never have a toilet?

[Maxfragg]

it would actually be an interesting idea, and not to unrealistic, since the G3 was often used combinded with CQB weapons, but i think there would be something better than a MP5 for this role

[[R-CON]Cp]

Originally Posted by Maxfragg

but i think there would be something better than a MP5 for this role

the P90?

[Expendable Grunt]

Yeah, like I said in the other thread, it HAS been brought up before, back when Spec Ops was going to become a limited kit. We talked about a "pointman" kit which was just the rifleman with a less recoil heavy weapon.

[[R-CON]nedlands1]

So what role does this have in the grand scheme? Just for crewman? http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-...wip-g3ka4.html

[Spec_Operator]

Uhm... well, the K version doesnt really have less recoil, does it? If parachute maps will ever return, the weapon would be perfect for it.

[Dr2B Rudd]

Originally Posted by Spec_Operator

Or is it unrealistic? Not really
Would it hurt gameplay? Perhaps, it is a new factor for an SL or CO to consider in relation to squad loadout, but may also augment the squad ablities favourably
Was it even worth creating a thread? sure, why not
Where is the toilet, anyway? Why do forums never have a toilet? There is one hidden in a place known only to the R-Mods, this is how they maintain their power over us.

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[[T]Terranova7]

The biggest argument against something like this was realism, but I would like to point out that the MEC does not need to follow a similar doctrine as the U.S/U.K forces. I like to think of the Germans in WW2, in how they had firearms specifically made and issued for urban/trench/CQB environments.

I would add a whole new class to their arsenal (CQB Kit), or replace the ironsight G3 with the HK53 (Speaking of which, I never heard of the MEC getting the MP5).

[Spec_Operator]

The reason why i said MP5 is that the HK53 might be a bit too powerful and it could become unbalanced again. The MP5 is just as extreme as the G3, while the HK53 is less different to the other 5.56mm weapons. And the HK53 is pretty rare i think irl, compared to the MP5.

[Expendable Grunt]

Originally Posted by [T]Terranova7

The biggest argument against something like this was realism, but I would like to point out that the MEC does not need to follow a similar doctrine as the U.S/U.K forces. I like to think of the Germans in WW2, in how they had firearms specifically made and issued for urban/trench/CQB environments.

I would add a whole new class to their arsenal (CQB Kit), or replace the ironsight G3 with the HK53 (Speaking of which, I never heard of the MEC getting the MP5).

Crewman kit.