Remove the ability to swim. - Page 2

Tarantula · 03-03-2010, 03:58 PM

Blowing a friking bridge might possibly be able to slow down the opposing team if this was implemented, need to know what is possible tho, if you could make it so that only certain kits couldnt swim then it would be beneficial and realistic but every soldier being afraid of water is a bit of the opposite

Solid Knight · 03-03-2010, 04:38 PM

Guys, they would still be able to walk through shallow water (water below their head). I know you can control vehicles and whether or not they float and how far underwater they have to be before they take damage and how long they have to be underwater before they take damage. I've never tried implementing this on the soldier to see if you could but if you could it would up some of the realism as you'd have to find places to cross and not just swim through an ocean or super-deep river.

bloodthirsty_viking · 03-03-2010, 05:25 PM

i dont see the problem- you guys know most places that you can swim across are low banks- other places are to steep to get back up from... so really, whats the problem??

I mean sure- you would not swim from the carrier in real life- but the carrier would not be so close either.

I see this a bad idea- lowers teamplay (atleast in .85- i would flank arround on qwie river, and have my squad swim throwgh the side, while some others attacked from the street on the north, theirby cuasing panic. I like being able to swim to flank- if you get flanked from the water- someone was not watching their flank like they should.

Skull · 03-03-2010, 05:53 PM

the idea is cool, but it would kill the gameplay

HellDuke · 03-03-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarantula

Blowing a friking bridge might possibly be able to slow down the opposing team if this was implemented, need to know what is possible tho, if you could make it so that only certain kits couldnt swim then it would be beneficial and realistic but every soldier being afraid of water is a bit of the opposite

And that is exactly why it shouldn't be implemented if it's possible. If you blow a bridge IRL you can find another way over the river or make quick repairs for infantry to get over. In PR such possibilities do not exist. Then again this problem would be only on one or two maps, since you can't blow all the bridges if I recall correctly...

Heskey · 03-03-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Knight

How exactly does somebody carrying a HAT and seventy pounds of gear manage to swim from a carrier to shore? They should sink.

Only the light classes should be able to swim.

I don't agree with removing swimming outright; "Oh no, a stream; best find a bridge!", but I seem to recall Battlefield Vietnam kicked in a health bleed after so long swimming.

[R-CON]ReadMenace · 03-03-2010, 07:37 PM

I'm failing to see how this is either unrealistic or undermines gameplay/teamwork -- it may reduce infantry mobility to some extent, but would undoubtedly increase reliance on amphibious APCs and boats for navigating waterways and beach landings.

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Originally Posted by HellDuke

And that is exactly why it shouldn't be implemented if it's possible. ... Then again this problem would be only on one or two maps, since you can't blow all the bridges if I recall correctly...

One or two maps should stop this idea from being implemented? I'm sure it would not be exceedingly difficult to alter those one or two maps to take this into account.

Pariel -- Marines utilized hollow tubing to aide them in crossing the canals -- this is far from fording a river in full combat gear.

The drowning effect was implemented for civilians (Apparently still in effect?) in a previous version and could likely be used to limit swim time for infantry, allowing them to cross small creeks etc, but prevent footborne amphibious assaults.

+>9000 Solid.

-REad

Redamare · 03-03-2010, 08:18 PM

-_- i REALLY Dont like this idea AT ALL

... okay Yes it is a bit unreal but how in the WORLD will we ever cross a body of water??.. it would be Impossible and destroy the game..

[R-CON]ReadMenace · 03-03-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Redamare

-_- i REALLY Dont like this idea AT ALL

... okay Yes it is a bit unreal but how in the WORLD will we ever cross a body of water??.. it would be Impossible and destroy the game..

Boats, APCs, Helicopters, Bridges, fords...

And just for fun a LMGTFY.

-REad

bazza_1964 · 03-03-2010, 08:26 PM

Deployable footbridges?

Just a thought...

bzzz

03-03-2010, 03:58 PM	#11
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03-03-2010, 04:38 PM	#12
Solid Knight Join Date: Sep 2008 United States of America Posts: 2,197	Re: Remove the ability to swim. Guys, they would still be able to walk through shallow water (water below their head). I know you can control vehicles and whether or not they float and how far underwater they have to be before they take damage and how long they have to be underwater before they take damage. I've never tried implementing this on the soldier to see if you could but if you could it would up some of the realism as you'd have to find places to cross and not just swim through an ocean or super-deep river.

03-03-2010, 05:25 PM	#13
bloodthirsty_viking Join Date: Mar 2008 Iceland Location: ohio Posts: 1,641	Re: Remove the ability to swim. i dont see the problem- you guys know most places that you can swim across are low banks- other places are to steep to get back up from... so really, whats the problem?? I mean sure- you would not swim from the carrier in real life- but the carrier would not be so close either. I see this a bad idea- lowers teamplay (atleast in .85- i would flank arround on qwie river, and have my squad swim throwgh the side, while some others attacked from the street on the north, theirby cuasing panic. I like being able to swim to flank- if you get flanked from the water- someone was not watching their flank like they should.
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03-03-2010, 05:53 PM	#14
Skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Austria Location: Graz Posts: 265	Re: Remove the ability to swim. the idea is cool, but it would kill the gameplay

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Redamare Join Date: Oct 2007 United States of America Location: The JerZ Posts: 1,533	Re: Remove the ability to swim. -_- i REALLY Dont like this idea AT ALL ... okay Yes it is a bit unreal but how in the WORLD will we ever cross a body of water??.. it would be Impossible and destroy the game..
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