For the Love of God, Give the Sniper a Radio! :D

[alberto_di_gio]

Originally Posted by badmojo420

A sniper should not be off on his own.

And I disagree for that. A sniper IS a loner. As a nature of it presence he must stay disguised and far away from eyes. His weapon is totally useless in close combat. Even if a sniper is in a crowded squad he must move apart them. He have to has his own agenda (of course given by commander or his squad leader)

[-.-Maverick-.-]

NO! A sniper should operate in a 2 man squad. A spotter to protect him and spot for him and use tha radio to report inteligence is essential. A lone sniper results in dead guy and a lost sniper kit.

Originally Posted by Expatriate Gamer

Being a Spotter FOR a Sniper is Boring.

No its not, you are lazing for the jets, reporting inteligence, marking targets, and now when you have the drop kit you can work in shifts. You shouldnt engage everyone even when you are a sniper. I can see that you are one of those "shoot everyone you see" snipers. Because of people like you, everyone hates snipers and everyone thinks that they are all a bunch of 12year old lonewolfes.

[dtacs]

Originally Posted by alberto_di_gio

And I disagree for that. A sniper IS a loner. As a nature of it presence he must stay disguised and far away from eyes. His weapon is totally useless in close combat. Even if a sniper is in a crowded squad he must move apart them. He have to has his own agenda (of course given by commander or his squad leader)

Totally agree with this one.

Originally Posted by -.-Maverick-.-

NO! A sniper should operate in a 2 man squad. A spotter to protect him and spot for him and use tha radio to report inteligence is essential. A lone sniper results in dead guy and a lost sniper kit.

No its not, you are lazing for the jets, reporting inteligence, marking targets, and now when you have the drop kit you can work in shifts. You shouldnt engage everyone even when you are a sniper. I can see that you are one of those "shoot everyone you see" snipers. Because of people like you, everyone hates snipers and everyone thinks that they are all a bunch of 12year old lonewolfes.

Aaaaaand totally disagree with this one.

I have only seen one super decent sniper in PR, and he never operated with someone else. I tend to find that when trying to stay low and quiet that the last thing you want is someone else right next to you, as it presents a bigger target. The problem here is that the mentality of 'all snipers operate in 2 man teams IRL, so it has to be that in PR' has remained since the kit was introduced. This is not the case as the funamental rule of PR stays in place:

• The more people trying to covertly complete an objective, the lower the chance of success.

This applies to sniping as well, as two targets sitting in the hills on Kashan have a double chance of being seen. The snipers best weapon is not being seen.

[-.-Maverick-.-]

Originally Posted by dtacs

Totally agree with this one.


Aaaaaand totally disagree with this one.

I have only seen one super decent sniper in PR, and he never operated with someone else. I tend to find that when trying to stay low and quiet that the last thing you want is someone else right next to you, as it presents a bigger target. The problem here is that the mentality of 'all snipers operate in 2 man teams IRL, so it has to be that in PR' has remained since the kit was introduced. This is not the case as the funamental rule of PR stays in place:

• The more people trying to covertly complete an objective, the lower the chance of success.

This applies to sniping as well, as two targets sitting in the hills on Kashan have a double chance of being seen. The snipers best weapon is not being seen.

You should never sit on a hill on kashan, you will die everytime. The hill doesnt render at 300+ meters or so, so any tanks will see you flying in the air it will matter very little if you have a spotter or not. If you do not have a spotter to protect you, you will die. Either by getting knifed from behind, or by getting pwned in CQB.

Originally Posted by dtacs

The more people trying to covertly complete an objective, the lower the chance of success.

This is just dumb. It is true for 6 man squads but not for a 2 man sniper squad a lone sniper trying to complete an objective will fail in 99% of the cases. He has no Radio to spot and call for trans, support, cas... He has no protection in CQB and he is alone!!

Also PRs main goal is TEAMWORK, and I fail to see how a lone sniper has anything to do with it.

[Cheditor]

@ Maverick sometimes it is better to be alone. It really depends what kind of sniping you are doing. If you are out for kills, spotter works as he can help find targets etc. But if you are purely doing hidey hidey findey findey, 1 person does fine you can just sit in a nice place you just have to worry about yourself, you can also rely on sound, if you hear footsteps etc you know its enemy 100% also less chance of spotter being in a bad position getting seen and there fore you are seen.

[dtacs]

Originally Posted by -.-Maverick-.-

You should never sit on a hill on kashan, you will die everytime. The hill doesnt render at 300+ meters or so, so any tanks will see you flying in the air it will matter very little if you have a spotter or not. If you do not have a spotter to protect you, you will die. Either by getting knifed from behind, or by getting pwned in CQB.

I lasted a whole round sitting up there. Either the tanks were stupid, or I wasn't.

Should a spotter have to constantly look behind to make sure 'I don't get knifed'? Who on earth would want to be tasked with that? Think realistically here.

This is just dumb. It is true for 6 man squads but not for a 2 man sniper squad a lone sniper trying to complete an objective will fail in 99% of the cases. He has no Radio to spot and call for trans, support, cas... He has no protection in CQB and he is alone!!

You speak as if an objective is capping a flag or destroying a vehicle, however this isn't the case. It can be as simple as getting into position, which, with more numbers, has a higher chance of failure, does it not?

Also, if you need a radio to call for trans then you're definitely doing something wrong or the pilots are idiots who can't mark a map

Also PRs main goal is TEAMWORK, and I fail to see how a lone sniper has anything to do with it.

There is teamwork, then there is your definition of teamwork which seems to be the more people the more 'teamworky' it is; which is once again incorrect. Teamwork means spotting, if there is a single sniper providing intel, is that not teamwork? Does he have to have a rifleman or whatever kit sitting next to him to ensure it is your teamwork?

[HAAN4]

You supose to use the radio for spoting right?

but if you like to get a ''radio'' you just need to stay has SL of a Sniper team, so you Press V and talk to commander how will spot and cordinate the atacks

but for real the atual voip sistem sucks, because there is not way of squad talking direct whicht other squads. what truly incresse commanders autority, but alsos make dificult to allow squads to work toguether. has Infantry and APC, and Infantry batalions. or evem Tank coluns of individual squad for better voip unpolution

[Redamare]

GIVE sniper RADIO ( BUT ... Snipers call out icons are Green or Blue to indicate Intel ) oppose to RED from squad leaders..

This way it will be known from the team if the call out came from a squad or a sniper .... and this can also confirm Misssed call outs such as when you place a marker the vehicle moves far distance out of range of the squad leader to see the path of the vehicle of sorts -_-
... to find out where he is heading?

[mati140]

Originally Posted by badmojo420

I disagree.

A sniper should not be off on his own. Besides the obvious advantages of working with other people, the sniper kit is valuable and should not be running the risk of giving it to the enemy. Giving him a radio would further encourage lone-wolfing as a sniper.

I disagree, sniper should be on his own (with spotter only), give the team intel and eliminate officers and medics. The marksman kit is for working in squad but not sniper.

[illidur]

sniper is a kit and i dont see how anybody has the right to say how its supposed to be used. YOUR method might work somtimes and not others. or be worse in somebody elses eyes. if ppl are complaining that the sniper is useless why make it worse? as for a spotter i would like a marksman or another sniper. i find that if i see 2 ppl standing still i'd like to kill both in 1 strike. or 2x the chance to kill 1 target.