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Old 01-06-2010, 06:15 PM   #31
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i disagree with MEC vs. insurgents, or Taliban, on any map. MEC is a coalition of Middle Eastern nations who oppose the West,
So what? Opposition toward the West doesn't mean that everyone in the Middle East and Iraq would love MEC. Absolutely the contrary. The Middle East is a politically fragmented region, to the degree that it is very likely that any such MEC-like organization would have to engage in several anti-insurgency campaigns, which it would probably inherit from its member states, many of whom are already doing anti-insurgency stuff.

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Or as mentioned earlier, make it AAS with US Army vs. MEC
That's a bad idea. IMO.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:30 PM   #32
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So what? Opposition toward the West doesn't mean that everyone in the Middle East and Iraq would love MEC. Absolutely the contrary. The Middle East is a politically fragmented region, to the degree that it is very likely that any such MEC-like organization would have to engage in several anti-insurgency campaigns, which it would probably inherit from its member states, many of whom are already doing anti-insurgency stuff.
i agree. in my post i said Suadi Arabia would not likely be in the MEC. and that what the MEC is is a Middle East Coalition (MEC) that fights the West. That is why they fight the US, and now British

but imho i disgree that

[/QUOTE]any such MEC-like organization would have to engage in several anti-insurgency campaigns[/QUOTE]

If anything, the MEC would be supporting the insurgents with cash/weapons. kind of like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of thing.

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Old 01-06-2010, 06:36 PM   #33
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If anything, the MEC would be supporting the insurgents with cash/weapons. kind of like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of thing.
Of course it wouldn't support insurgents who are fighting against MEC.

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Though I don't think the MEC has any light vehicles other than that small engineer truck.
And that's only for the better. Fighting against insurgents would be different for the MEC.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:38 PM   #34
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wouldnt Iran be leader of the MEC? and during the current Iraq War didnt Iran provide Iraqi insugents with RKG anti-vehicle grenades and EFP (explosively formed penetrators) IEDs and other weapons to fight the Americans with? that makes MEC vs Insurgents unrealistic imho.

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If anything, the MEC would be supporting the insurgents with cash/weapons. kind of like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of thing.
why you cant think of insurgents, which will fight against mec? US(NATO) is not an exclusive force against whom there might be an uprise

but again, MEC vs Ins brings new breath into gameplay, while all this "its not realistic scenario" just restrains us from new variety and possible maps locations without giving any benefits


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Old 01-06-2010, 06:41 PM   #36
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wouldnt Iran be leader of the MEC? and during the current Iraq War didnt Iran provide Iraqi insugents with RKG anti-vehicle grenades and EFP (explosively formed penetrators) IEDs and other weapons to fight the Americans with? that makes MEC vs Insurgents unrealistic imho.
Iran isn't MEC. I don't know if Iran is its leader, or just a member.

Iran probably provided for insurgent factions that served the Iranian regime the best. Insurgents in MEC Karbala scenario could be insurgents who never aligned with Tehran or were dissapointed with Iran or MEC to the degree that they decided to resist MEC occupation.

Btw, MECsters don't speak Persian ingame.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:56 PM   #37
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Well just because iran supplied weapons to them at that time doesn't mean they wont have an uprising. Sides always change, NATO and other countries helped out afghanistan in the russia-afghansitan conflict during their "insurgency" so to speak. And NATO again kinda pushed iraq to attacking iran for our selves. MEC could easily have an insurgency, remember MEC don't essentially have to be a defensive force, they invade area that doesn't agree, uprising on the way.



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Old 01-06-2010, 07:04 PM   #38
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I support this the idea has been mulling around alot
I think each faction deserve it's own insurgency map
Maybe PLA vs Mongolian Border Raiders?


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Old 01-06-2010, 07:16 PM   #39
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wouldnt Iran be leader of the MEC? and during the current Iraq War didnt Iran provide Iraqi insugents with RKG anti-vehicle grenades and EFP (explosively formed penetrators) IEDs and other weapons to fight the Americans with? that makes MEC vs Insurgents unrealistic imho.
How about the Insurgents who are fighting for their homeland because they hate Iran?

If Iran took over Iraq they would be having more problems than NATO - the Middle East isn't united against the west, any coalition is going to be made by force, as the Middle East, mostly, Fights the Middle East.

Tbh you're showing a lack of knowledge about the Middle East


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Old 01-06-2010, 08:09 PM   #40
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wouldnt Iran be leader of the MEC? and during the current Iraq War didnt Iran provide Iraqi insugents with RKG anti-vehicle grenades and EFP (explosively formed penetrators) IEDs and other weapons to fight the Americans with? that makes MEC vs Insurgents unrealistic imho.
This has been discussed
All the other ME of the C wouldn't stand allying with Iran because of religion


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