Live up to "Reality" and un-nerf the Sniper Rifles.

[Sirsolo]

Out of every single weapon in the game, from the rock to the tank shell, every weapon is more realistic than the sniper rifle.

Now I really don't know why this is. Version 7 had it down pretty good, the deviation was accurate, the wait time was satisfactory, and the thing worked.

Nowadays, I find it more and more ridiculous that I shoot someone from a distance a sniper can spit accurately, and it clearly misses.

Dont say "Oh you don't know how to use it" because I don't buy it.
It's because it does. not. work.

I had a standoff today with a regular infantryman. We were about 200 meters apart, he had a regular (scoped, oh god let it be scoped) rifle, and I with the Scoped Lee-Engfield. Take a wild guess who won? I waited four seconds on my first shot that went a clear meter to the right, and shortly after I was dead.

The standard coffee-sipping trench-digging by the hundreds joe and his ten cent rifle is accurate after 2 seconds to 300 meters.

The knucklehead with the big gun is accurate (if only because he fires a wall of bullets) to unknown distances with a scope with no recoil after deploying it-while standing.

The trained assassin who doesnt have above average mobility, or working camouflage of any kind needs to wait an ungodly amount of time to shoot out of a weapon made to have a one meter deviation at a kilometer and Misses?!

Im sorry, but I'd like to question your sources about the realism regarding this weapon, because there is no way in hell that this game lives up to its name while this continues.

Sorry about the rant, but it's been version 8 for quite a while now.

~Sirsolo

[Rudd]

I do think that an undeloyed mode with equal accuracy to say...the taliban lee enfield (at least) would sort all the frustrations of the sniper kit out, the deployed mode would behave as it does now.

[Sirsolo]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

I do think that an undeloyed mode with equal accuracy to say...the taliban lee enfield (at least) would sort all the frustrations of the sniper kit out, the deployed mode would behave as it does now.

Are you saying that the Enfield is less accurate than the other snipers so the way to fix the snipers not being any good is to give them a mode where they're less accurate, and a deployed mode where nothing about them changes? Please say Im wrong in my understanding.

[HellDuke]

"The sword is only as powerfull as it's wielder". Anyway that quote doesn't apply to just swords, but I think you get the idea

The trained assassin who doesnt have above average mobility, or working camouflage of any kind needs to wait an ungodly amount of time to shoot out of a weapon made to have a one meter deviation at a kilometer and Misses?!

Unless I am much mistaken you are reffering to real life here? If so know that weapons aren't made with deviation. Deviation is a made up thing that exists only in this game. Otherwise it comes down to holding the rifle steady and the force which affects the bullet (the gun force, coriollis (can't spell his name in english) force, gravitation and wind) of which in game we have neither.

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by Sirsolo

Are you saying that the Enfield is less accurate than the other snipers so the way to fix the snipers not being any good is to give them a mode where they're less accurate, and a deployed mode where nothing about them changes? Please say Im wrong in my understanding.

I mean the taliban medic lee enfield

Think of it this way

Undeployed - you have a lower maxium accuracy, but a much decreased settle time

deployed - you have the current fantastic accuracy of the sniper rifle, but the full settle time for max accuracy.

[Sirsolo]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

I mean the taliban medic lee enfield

Think of it this way

Undeployed - you have a lower maxium accuracy, but a much decreased settle time

deployed - you have the current fantastic accuracy of the sniper rifle, but the full settle time for max accuracy.

So... pretty much what it should already be?

Im saying lower the settle time drastically for long distance, and have it next to no time for lower distances.... like in real life. Hell, keep the long ass settle time for long distances, but when a rifle made for accuracy misses by a distance greater than a fully automatic weapon, something is wrong. So make it instantly accurate to 300 meters. I dont think that's asking too much. The "deploying" can be the sniper looking through the sights. Seems fair?

[Nibbit]

well then, why not just take the regular ten cent rifle and pwn snipers with it? so u can help ur team out as well ;P

[Sirsolo]

Originally Posted by Nibbit

well then, why not just take the regular ten cent rifle and pwn snipers with it? so u can help ur team out as well ;P

Your logic has many flaws.

-If Im "pwning" (something I dont do) snipers, then how am I helping my team more if I do it with a normal rifle as opposed to a sniper rifle?

-I wouldnt need a normal rifle to do that, if the snipers worked like they should and I could defend myself properly from medium distances.

-You've never ever played with me, so how would you know how I use a sniper rifle? Im not from call of duty, I know what my job is, but as soon as I report a squads location, I start bogging them down there, if things go like they should.

Any input to my actual thread or are you going to shut down the elitists that aren't here?

[Nibbit]

Originally Posted by Sirsolo

You logic has many flaws.

-If Im "pwning" (something I dont do) snipers, then how am I helping my team more if I do it with a normal rifle as opposed to a sniper rifle?

-I wouldnt need a normal rifle to do that, if the snipers worked like they should and I could defend myself properly from medium distances.

-You've never ever played with me, so how would you know how I use a sniper rifle? Im not from call of duty, I know what my job is, but as soon as I report a squads location, I start bogging them down there, if things go like they should.

Any input to my actual thread or are you going to shut down the elitists that aren't here?

What I mean is, help ur team out by playing regular infantry man, capping flags, and play for ur team, killing stupid cqb snipers on ur way, and leave the sniper kits to the people who really need it (SPOTTERS) instead of going into combat with it (

I had a standoff today with a regular infantryman. We were about 200 meters apart,

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[[R-DEV]Gaz]

I was unaware the Taliban had sniper courses They are not snipers, they have never been to Brecon.

Ingame, Sniper rifles are zeroed to 600m. Assault rifles are zeroed to 300m. The engagement range you mentioned basically dictates that unless you know the weapon well enough to know where to aim off at half the zero range, the assault rile's going to win. The sniper rifles need to settle too.

I can't instantly hit a target at 300m irl with an L96 or L115. Sounds like you think we can quickdraw longs