Scoped visibility

cocobutter333 · 10-27-2009, 10:51 AM

Did a search nothing as defined as what i'm proposing

I think the amount u can see down a scope in PR is too much and need to be more focused i believe, also in the zoomed scopes all u see is a black background, no graphics to give the feeling ur looking down a sope imo

i've only noticed it visibly in the sniper or marksmen kit
e.g

2D graphic scope just gives a bit more definition

probably unlikely in the BF2 engine but you get the idea

Smegburt_funkledink · 10-27-2009, 11:02 AM

The second image you've posted has similar effects that the BF2 FH2 mod uses. People here have said that because of certain screen filters that aircraft in PR use, this is not possible aswell.

The third image has an effect that been suggested many times, where the centre of the screen is zoomed but outside of the scope is not. This, as I've heard, is not possible with the BF2 engine.

This idea and many work-arounds have been discussed a few times.

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-hope-2-a.html

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-zomg-1-a.html

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...per-scope.html

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...ield-guns.html

There's a more specific thread somewhere.

Nimise · 10-27-2009, 11:05 AM

How hard did you search

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-zomg-1-a.html

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...uter-view.html

Arnoldio · 10-27-2009, 11:26 AM

It could be done. Like Aimpoint, but with zoom. Thought the raticule quality would be worse i believe..

Tarantula · 10-27-2009, 11:53 AM

I think he just means that there neds to be more defenition of the actual scope. In current scopes only if you catch the light at exactly the right angle you can see the circles of the scope. Not suggesting that there should be an area of blur or anything. Just give depth to the scope. E.G the 2nd picture without the blurry corners.

The first picture best describes this, it shows the scope has depth and it feels as if your looking through a scope, not a peep hole.

As coco says, the sniper and marksman kits have it to a small degree already.

In the following video at 0:22.
Some messing around... - Project Reality Forums

Redamare · 10-27-2009, 10:54 PM

that would be nice

. devs would have to look more into that FH2 thing if its possible for them it should be possible for us..

one of the ideas about puting zoom to aimpoint wouldnt work cuz you would have a zoom on around the aimpoint croshairs.. unless you blur out the surounding screen except for the inital object of the guns scope.

Kenny · 10-27-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt.Smeg

The first image you've posted has similar effects that the BF2 FH2 mod uses. People here have said that because of certain screen filters that aircraft in PR use, this is not possible as well.

That's the key why we cant do it in PR it completely stuffs-up the overlays used on the gun cam for choppas and the bomb cam for the jets unless a work around can be found be can either go with one or the other. It's unfortunate but's that's how it is unless circumstances have change.

cocobutter333 · 10-28-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarantula

I think he just means that there neds to be more defenition of the actual scope. In current scopes only if you catch the light at exactly the right angle you can see the circles of the scope. Not suggesting that there should be an area of blur or anything. Just give depth to the scope. E.G the 2nd picture without the blurry corners.

The first picture best describes this, it shows the scope has depth and it feels as if your looking through a scope, not a peep hole.

As coco says, the sniper and marksman kits have it to a small degree already.

In the following video at 0:22.
Some messing around... - Project Reality Forums

my point exactly

goguapsy · 10-29-2009, 01:14 PM

well... All I think is that you should be able to see around the scope. Zoomed cuz of BF2 engine limitations or not, you simply don't put your eye inside the ACOG for example IRL.

abbadon101 · 10-29-2009, 09:23 PM

But if the ACOG/SUSAT/Scope fills 90% of the screen the little you see around the scope will not matter as it will just be in the corners or just around the edges. I would rather have a sexier looking scope with a little visible around the edge than the boring (no offense to the devs as I love there work) that we have ATM. Its smallish thing that would make the game feel a little more indepth as alot of kits use scoped weapons.

10-27-2009, 10:51 AM	#1
cocobutter333 Join Date: Aug 2008 United Kingdom Location: London Posts: 149	Scoped visibility Did a search nothing as defined as what i'm proposing I think the amount u can see down a scope in PR is too much and need to be more focused i believe, also in the zoomed scopes all u see is a black background, no graphics to give the feeling ur looking down a sope imo i've only noticed it visibly in the sniper or marksmen kit e.g 2D graphic scope just gives a bit more definition probably unlikely in the BF2 engine but you get the idea

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10-27-2009, 11:02 AM	#2
Smegburt_funkledink Deputy Lead Tester (EU) Join Date: Nov 2007 Viet Nam Location: Quang Tri Province Posts: 5,661	Re: Scoped visibility The second image you've posted has similar effects that the BF2 FH2 mod uses. People here have said that because of certain screen filters that aircraft in PR use, this is not possible aswell. The third image has an effect that been suggested many times, where the centre of the screen is zoomed but outside of the scope is not. This, as I've heard, is not possible with the BF2 engine. This idea and many work-arounds have been discussed a few times. http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-hope-2-a.html http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-zomg-1-a.html http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...per-scope.html http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...ield-guns.html There's a more specific thread somewhere.
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10-27-2009, 11:05 AM	#3
Nimise Join Date: May 2009 United States of America Posts: 191	Re: scoped visibility size How hard did you search http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...-zomg-1-a.html http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-...uter-view.html

10-27-2009, 11:26 AM	#4
Arnoldio Join Date: Jul 2008 Slovenia Location: Cerkno Posts: 3,127	Re: Scoped visibility It could be done. Like Aimpoint, but with zoom. Thought the raticule quality would be worse i believe..
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10-27-2009, 11:53 AM	#5
Tarantula Join Date: Mar 2008 United Kingdom Location: E5kp1, The flipped truck Posts: 214	Re: Scoped visibility I think he just means that there neds to be more defenition of the actual scope. In current scopes only if you catch the light at exactly the right angle you can see the circles of the scope. Not suggesting that there should be an area of blur or anything. Just give depth to the scope. E.G the 2nd picture without the blurry corners. The first picture best describes this, it shows the scope has depth and it feels as if your looking through a scope, not a peep hole. As coco says, the sniper and marksman kits have it to a small degree already. In the following video at 0:22. Some messing around... - Project Reality Forums
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10-27-2009, 10:54 PM	#6
Redamare Join Date: Oct 2007 United States of America Location: The JerZ Posts: 1,533	Re: Scoped visibility that would be nice . devs would have to look more into that FH2 thing if its possible for them it should be possible for us.. one of the ideas about puting zoom to aimpoint wouldnt work cuz you would have a zoom on around the aimpoint croshairs.. unless you blur out the surounding screen except for the inital object of the guns scope.
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10-29-2009, 01:14 PM	#9
goguapsy Join Date: Jun 2009 Brazil Location: Sao Paulo Posts: 3,694	Re: Scoped visibility well... All I think is that you should be able to see around the scope. Zoomed cuz of BF2 engine limitations or not, you simply don't put your eye inside the ACOG for example IRL.
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10-29-2009, 09:23 PM	#10
abbadon101 Join Date: Dec 2008 United Kingdom Location: South Coast Posts: 86	Re: Scoped visibility But if the ACOG/SUSAT/Scope fills 90% of the screen the little you see around the scope will not matter as it will just be in the corners or just around the edges. I would rather have a sexier looking scope with a little visible around the edge than the boring (no offense to the devs as I love there work) that we have ATM. Its smallish thing that would make the game feel a little more indepth as alot of kits use scoped weapons.

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