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Old 09-16-2009, 08:36 AM   #1
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In real life the scope on assault rifles either does not eliminate Iron sights, making it possible to look below the scope using the iron sights, or a red dot sight of some kind is added on top of the scope so that the rifle can still be used in CQB.

Could it be possible to have all standard issue rifles come equipped with 2 zoom modes, with the first right click being the red dot/ironsight view and the second right click switching to the scope ?

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Old 09-16-2009, 09:27 AM   #2
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Depending on the choice of weapon and/or optics yes, it does eliminate the use of irons. Besides the fact, you would never find a red dot or "reflex sight" on the same weapon with a conventional scope so your argument makes no sense.


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Old 09-16-2009, 09:39 AM   #3
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There are versions of the ACOG that have red dot sites mounted on top of them. Also if you use an EOTECH there is a 3x attachment that can be fitted to the site to turn it into a medium range scope, and it can be flipped to the side for CQB. I personally have not seen these in combat, but it doesn't mean they aren't out there.
For most cases in CQB IRL if you have an ACOG on your weapon you just line the baddy up with the front site post and you should hit him either in the chest or face.


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Old 09-16-2009, 10:02 AM   #4
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Besides the fact, you would never find a red dot or "reflex sight" on the same weapon with a conventional scope so your argument makes no sense.
i think he means like them little red dots ontop of the ACOG.


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Old 09-16-2009, 10:17 AM   #5
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i think he means like them little red dots ontop of the ACOG.
Yes, thats what I mean. Maybe whatever view could be used that a soldier would use irl, like aiming through the paddy like thermis said, depending on what equipment soldiers are issued irl.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:43 AM   #6
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Default Re: 2 zoom modes for all rifles

A "CQB mode" with reduced accuracy but good handling, similar to the LMG undeployed mode, would be nice for both scoped and unscoped ARs.

Although we used ironsights, we were taught how to fire without looking through the sights, because in some situations there just isn't time nor space to do that. I would guess most armed forces does that.

The largest problem I see with this is that it would require an additional weapon slot, and that is something some kits are running low on.


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Old 09-16-2009, 11:33 AM   #7
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Or just 2 zoom modes, like some sniper rifles and marksmen kits.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:39 AM   #8
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There must be a solution, otherwise they won't be able to implement the scope and reflex sight of the G36 A1/2 for the german faction, will they?
So they already have to think about a solution of how to use the HKV, maybe they can adopt it for other rifles then.
The idea itself is very good and adds much to realism.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:52 PM   #9
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Or just 2 zoom modes, like some sniper rifles and marksmen kits.
Yeah, that sounds nice. One zoom level would be with 0x, and another with standart ACOG zoom level?


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Old 09-16-2009, 01:04 PM   #10
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Or just 2 zoom modes, like some sniper rifles and marksmen kits.
In combined arms we have added a 1.0 magnification level for all rifles in order to represent the addition of backup iron sights and shoulder firing. The scope is not accurate while moving however so it is best for less than 30 meters.
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