Knives. Do we really need them? - Page 2

nick20404 · 08-22-2009, 09:10 PM

So how will we knife rally's and firebases? Knives have multiple uses in PR just like IRL,

McBumLuv · 08-22-2009, 09:24 PM

Knives at least need changing, they shouldn't be killing players with blows to the feet.

Aliblista · 08-22-2009, 09:29 PM

The most important thing your forgetting is that the knife is also a 'metaphor' for any kind of physical combat i.e punching, rifle butting, tackling/taking down a cqb contact by any means necessary.....
with that in mind as well as the stealth aspect of the knife/satisfaction/and fb/cp aspects, the knife should remain as it is
besides, can you really think of anything useful to take up its slot

[R-CON]Tim270 · 08-22-2009, 10:08 PM

Yeah, leave it be until there is something really worth replacing it with.

Colonelcool125 · 08-22-2009, 10:11 PM

I'm not saying remove them now. I'm just asking, would people be willing to give up their knife for, say, frag grenades for the AR or something along those lines.

Alex6714 · 08-22-2009, 10:36 PM

Knife being 1 shot kill certainly compensates for the absurd hit detection.

Unless it gets replaced with a backup pistol, rifle, AR, HAT... I say keep it.

503 · 08-22-2009, 10:38 PM

I'd say remove all knifes and give everyone bayonets.

Wilkinson · 08-22-2009, 10:55 PM

Well only reason as I see it fit is because of the fact that we could say, 90% of Soldiers always have a knife with them at all times yeah? If I was a soldier, I'd always have a knife handy.

I know the use of R/L and PR are completely Different, but it could fit.

Celestial1 · 08-22-2009, 11:32 PM

As much as we all, myself included, LOVE KNIVES, it's really not a necessity.

Rallies would just require either killing the enemy enough times in the radius of the rally, or bringing two people in to overrun it.

FBs would require a change so that if the enemy has x number of people within a short distance, y, that it will automatically 'destruct'.

In all honesty, I would be very much towards removing knives, because it would mean that CQB weapons (ironsight rifles, pistols, carbines/smgs, etc) would have a distinct advantage. Of course, IRL, there would be the chance that a soldier would rush to gain a physical advantage over the enemy (ie grabbing and torquing the rifle away from himself, and fighting to pull it from his grip, etc), but it's not necessary to portray in PR, because just like IRL, it's not likely to happen very often at all anyway.

If it means that I can get an useful tool as a replacement, I would be fine with that, even though I may miss stalking people in the grasses of OGT with only a knife and a sprint bar at my disposal...

gazzthompson · 08-22-2009, 11:38 PM

i agree with OP, id rather see it replaced... but im to drunk to suggest what to replace it woth right now

08-22-2009, 09:10 PM	#11
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Celestial1 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,061	Re: Knives. Do we really need them? As much as we all, myself included, LOVE KNIVES, it's really not a necessity. Rallies would just require either killing the enemy enough times in the radius of the rally, or bringing two people in to overrun it. FBs would require a change so that if the enemy has x number of people within a short distance, y, that it will automatically 'destruct'. In all honesty, I would be very much towards removing knives, because it would mean that CQB weapons (ironsight rifles, pistols, carbines/smgs, etc) would have a distinct advantage. Of course, IRL, there would be the chance that a soldier would rush to gain a physical advantage over the enemy (ie grabbing and torquing the rifle away from himself, and fighting to pull it from his grip, etc), but it's not necessary to portray in PR, because just like IRL, it's not likely to happen very often at all anyway. If it means that I can get an useful tool as a replacement, I would be fine with that, even though I may miss stalking people in the grasses of OGT with only a knife and a sprint bar at my disposal...
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08-22-2009, 11:38 PM	#20
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