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Old 06-25-2009, 05:25 PM   #41
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Something that needs to be looked into. In game I don´t think its possible. Irl I think radar guidad missiles can be launched without lock and then the lock aquired, but I am not sure if thats only ground or airborne aswell.
Well AMRAAM can aquire targets after launch.
It became autonomus and lock the first target in sight.
But i dont know if the pilot can select which target to aquire.
He probably can because i know that AMRAAM can be data- linked even with AWAC.


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Old 06-25-2009, 05:29 PM   #42
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Same as in PR.
got any more examples or info on it?


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Old 06-25-2009, 05:39 PM   #43
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Remember that US pilot who was shot down in kosovo and managed to eject , land safely and escape from serbian territory ? he was shot by a serbian Strela that fired the missile without lock/radar at first and then activated radar 2-3 seconds before impact. Thats an example i can think of.


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Old 06-25-2009, 05:44 PM   #44
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Remember that US pilot who was shot down in kosovo and managed to eject , land safely and escape from serbian territory ? he was shot by a serbian Strela that fired the missile without lock/radar at first and then activated radar 2-3 seconds before impact. Thats an example i can think of.
Yeah thats the example I was thinking of in my post. Seems it can be done in the air also then from the other post.

"And in the PR world ALL nations signed the treaty, now there "
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"


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oh, they're fire and forget all right...they're fired then they forget where the target is
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:51 PM   #45
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Remember that US pilot who was shot down in kosovo and managed to eject , land safely and escape from serbian territory ? he was shot by a serbian Strela that fired the missile without lock/radar at first and then activated radar 2-3 seconds before impact. Thats an example i can think of.
ye small problem is you can't do that ingame

The only thing you can do afaik is have the missile launch with locking or non locking, once its launched it can't change.

You can launched it locked without having any target locked onto (much like our laser guided bombs now) and as soon as they come into range of a target then then track it but if you launched a missile in a non-seeking state it will just dumb fire pretty much. Not sure if I've explained that very well but basically, you can't have a missile dumb fire then 1/2 way though its flight change it to lock onto a target on the bf2 engine like your example in kosovo.


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Old 06-25-2009, 05:56 PM   #46
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Remember that US pilot who was shot down in kosovo and managed to eject , land safely and escape from serbian territory ? he was shot by a serbian Strela that fired the missile without lock/radar at first and then activated radar 2-3 seconds before impact. Thats an example i can think of.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:11 PM   #47
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ye small problem is you can't do that ingame

The only thing you can do afaik is have the missile launch with locking or non locking, once its launched it can't change.

You can launched it locked without having any target locked onto (much like our laser guided bombs now) and as soon as they come into range of a target then then track it but if you launched a missile in a non-seeking state it will just dumb fire pretty much. Not sure if I've explained that very well but basically, you can't have a missile dumb fire then 1/2 way though its flight change it to lock onto a target on the bf2 engine like your example in kosovo.
Sure you can. Its not like that in PR atm but it can be made so. Not that it will benefit greatly because it might increase TKs etc and its not always reliable so its a hard balance (something we are trying in CA).

"And in the PR world ALL nations signed the treaty, now there "
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"


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oh, they're fire and forget all right...they're fired then they forget where the target is
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:14 PM   #48
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Also i dont know if it helps even if it could be in game.
IRL missile has an intercept course.
In game it goes direct to target.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:35 PM   #49
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Sure you can. Its not like that in PR atm but it can be made so. Not that it will benefit greatly because it might increase TKs etc and its not always reliable so its a hard balance (something we are trying in CA).
I mean not launching the missile in a state where it can lock onto targets, like we have the laser guided bombs from I mean from a dumb fire state (ie, even if there was a target in range of it it wouldn't lock onto it) to locking onto the target in mid flight? Are you sure that's possible?


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Old 06-25-2009, 06:54 PM   #50
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I mean not launching the missile in a state where it can lock onto targets, like we have the laser guided bombs from I mean from a dumb fire state (ie, even if there was a target in range of it it wouldn't lock onto it) to locking onto the target in mid flight? Are you sure that's possible?
That I don´t know. I doubt it. Misunderstood a bit there.

"And in the PR world ALL nations signed the treaty, now there "
"Today's forecast calls for 30mm HE rain with a slight chance of hellfires"


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