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Old 05-28-2009, 02:39 PM   #1
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Default Limit Firebase Building Locations

A prime example of where FBs can be used in unrealistic, gamey and frustrating ways is on Muttrah.

Lets assume the USMC make it to West city,

They call for supplies from a huey, ok nothing wrong with that ofc.

But 2/3 MEC guys have taken a logistic truck and build a FB next to the USMC repair bay.

Now, this means they can fire on the US helos as they come in, and bleed the USMC of tickets as they can kill the truck over and over.

On the iGi mumble night the MEC built AA in both the North City and Docks when all the actual fighting and flag capping had moved on from there.

The only choice to combat that would be to go and secure flags that....are supposedly already taken. This kind of gameplay would demand a squad stay on EVERY flag...which simply isn't going to happen with 32 people.

IMO this tactic should only be avaliable in the form of AA kits being supplied via ammo boxes as a Firebase represents a secured location from which people can spawn. preventing enemy teams being able to build Firebases within enemy flag Radii can only add to gameplay imo.

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Old 05-28-2009, 02:50 PM   #2
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Agreed, building within friendly cap radius is debatable but within enemy cap radius is patently ridiculous.

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Old 05-28-2009, 02:51 PM   #3
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Well if you're limiting it only inside cap radius, it won't change much (the example of Muttrah you gave, the repair bay is well outside cap range anyway) since it's just as easy to place an FB a couple of metres outside the radius. Unless you add a larger prohibited range (cap +50%), you still won't see much change in FB placement, and you also add the problem of close flags (a'la Asad Khal) preventing you building an FB within your own flag's radius.

You could always say 'no FB's within cap range of ANY flag', but then you can still build right on the boundary.

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Old 05-28-2009, 03:00 PM   #4
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Sort of a good idea, but on smaller maps like the one Russian one (can't think of the name), the two CPs are each half the size of the map. So basically, the Russians wouldn't be able to build their FOBs in order to attack from, giving the Chechens an overwhelming advantage.

Same with Asad etc.

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Old 05-28-2009, 03:05 PM   #5
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^ thats mestia you're thinking off.

There is only a small overlap of the two flags on both asad and mestia so I don't think that would be a huge problem.

The repair bay thing could also count as a haing a radii to prevent enemy FBs next to it


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Old 05-28-2009, 03:12 PM   #6
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^ thats mestia you're thinking off.

There is only a small overlap of the two flags on both asad and mestia so I don't think that would be a huge problem.

The repair bay thing could also count as a haing a radii to prevent enemy FBs next to it
Still, the cap areas are huge and the Russian's don't start out with a flag, so they would be restricted to making FOBs pretty far back, which isn't really possible since the trucks cant go up in the hills very well.

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Old 05-28-2009, 03:17 PM   #7
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Build only in captured flag territory/radius. You should only be able to build in terrain you have secured (captured).

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Old 05-28-2009, 03:20 PM   #8
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On insurgency I've built firebases (as insurgent) less than twenty meters away from a US firebase. Now that was fun but at the same time highly unrealistic. You already can't build a firebase within so many meters of your own and this should be extended to enemy firebases as well.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:26 PM   #9
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Still, the cap areas are huge and the Russian's don't start out with a flag, so they would be restricted to making FOBs pretty far back, which isn't really possible since the trucks cant go up in the hills very well.
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Agree with this suggestion tbh.

Although it was L4gi in an APC that was killin' yo helos for the most part on that round


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