All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy

[R-CON]JuniperM40 · 02-28-2009, 12:47 PM

Greets,

If *ANY* Insurgent is arrested (not just the civilian), use the same game logic as a civvy arrest:

1. Notify the Player they have been ARRESTED. (Same as collaborator class)

2. Increase spawntime +30 sec (Same as collaborator class)

3. Maintain +7 IP for BluFor (same as it is now)

4. Notify the player that they have given 7 IP to the opposing force. (new)

Thanks for listening.

- JM40.

McBumLuv · 02-28-2009, 01:20 PM

Oh dear god no!

Insurgents are more easily arrested than regular armies are knifed. Why? Because the insurgent tactics demand that you bait the enemy as close as possible before engaging, to the point that arresting is much easier. And no matter how much you'll not want to get arrested, it'll still happen, and you'll end up with a 260 second respawn, as I did. That's over 4 minutes.

All you'll accomplish is sitting the team out for a long, long time.

I'm sorry if I sound cruel or ticked, I really don't have anything against you. It's just that if you want to use the excuse that "it'll encourage people not to get killed/knifed, then give em more respawn", it shouldn't only apply to Insurgents. If we are to use that theorie, then the Coalition should get respawns of 5 minutes when knifed, or 3 minutes when just shot, because they caused their team to lose a ticket.

~~Incomplete Spork~~ · 02-28-2009, 03:10 PM

Not just no, HELL NO!

[R-CON]JuniperM40 · 02-28-2009, 04:04 PM

Then axe the +30 sec.

Then it reduces to simply notifying the player that you indeed were arrested; becomes a display-only change. No game-logic changes with that.

i.e. No change to how it works now then; other than to display "You Were Arrested"

- JM40.

No offence taken. =)

Rudd · 02-28-2009, 04:09 PM

encourage death rather than arrest?

if the MAs say its realistic, I think the suggestion is detailed and well put.

[R-CON]ReadMenace · 02-28-2009, 04:21 PM

First, I want to say that Juniper is one of my favorite players.

Second, I support this idea.. Though.. I'd rather have collaborators not be arrestable.. Or just implementation of SolidKnight's suggestion.

-REad

[R-MOD]Eddiereyes909 · 02-28-2009, 04:37 PM

I like this idea.

Colonelcool125 · 02-28-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadMenace

First, I want to say that Juniper is one of my favorite players.

Agreed

.

I like this suggestion. It means that if you're going to go for the big payoff by baiting people to a trap, you're risking a long spawntime.

Tannhauser · 02-28-2009, 04:46 PM

Even tho this might be very realistic and logical for bot sides to have longer respawn times if knifed (I'd apply this for every conventional armies too, if you got knifed you deserve it IMO), I must disagree because of the gameplay effects it will have.
Not only will it encourage knifing as much as possible, but it'll also make the job even harder for insurgents ; And believe me, even if the Ins team is well coord, a well coord US/GB team will steamroll them, no matter what. This won't help IMO, unless Insurgents gain more firepower, then it'd be fair.

[uBp]Irish · 02-28-2009, 08:47 PM

I agree. If you're dumb enough to get arrested, you should reap the consequence.

02-28-2009, 12:47 PM	#1
[R-CON]JuniperM40 PR:BF2 Contributor Join Date: May 2006 Canada Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 249	All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy Greets, If ANY Insurgent is arrested (not just the civilian), use the same game logic as a civvy arrest: 1. Notify the Player they have been ARRESTED. (Same as collaborator class) 2. Increase spawntime +30 sec (Same as collaborator class) 3. Maintain +7 IP for BluFor (same as it is now) 4. Notify the player that they have given 7 IP to the opposing force. (new) Thanks for listening. - JM40.
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02-28-2009, 01:20 PM	#2
McBumLuv Join Date: Aug 2008 Canada Location: St. Catharines, ON Posts: 3,575	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy Oh dear god no! Insurgents are more easily arrested than regular armies are knifed. Why? Because the insurgent tactics demand that you bait the enemy as close as possible before engaging, to the point that arresting is much easier. And no matter how much you'll not want to get arrested, it'll still happen, and you'll end up with a 260 second respawn, as I did. That's over 4 minutes. All you'll accomplish is sitting the team out for a long, long time. I'm sorry if I sound cruel or ticked, I really don't have anything against you. It's just that if you want to use the excuse that "it'll encourage people not to get killed/knifed, then give em more respawn", it shouldn't only apply to Insurgents. If we are to use that theorie, then the Coalition should get respawns of 5 minutes when knifed, or 3 minutes when just shot, because they caused their team to lose a ticket.
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02-28-2009, 03:10 PM	#3
~~Incomplete Spork~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 United States of America Location: Texas Posts: 440	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy Not just no, HELL NO!

02-28-2009, 04:04 PM	#4
[R-CON]JuniperM40 PR:BF2 Contributor Join Date: May 2006 Canada Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 249	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy Then axe the +30 sec. Then it reduces to simply notifying the player that you indeed were arrested; becomes a display-only change. No game-logic changes with that. i.e. No change to how it works now then; other than to display "You Were Arrested" - JM40. No offence taken. =)
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02-28-2009, 04:09 PM	#5
Rudd Retired PR Developer Join Date: Aug 2007 United Kingdom Location: England, Brighton Posts: 17,664 Blog Entries: 2	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy encourage death rather than arrest? if the MAs say its realistic, I think the suggestion is detailed and well put.
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02-28-2009, 04:21 PM	#6
[R-CON]ReadMenace PR Contributor Join Date: Jan 2007 United States of America Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 2,804	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy First, I want to say that Juniper is one of my favorite players. Second, I support this idea.. Though.. I'd rather have collaborators not be arrestable.. Or just implementation of SolidKnight's suggestion. -REad

02-28-2009, 04:37 PM	#7
[R-MOD]Eddiereyes909 Forum Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 United States of America Location: TX Posts: 4,309	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy I like this idea.
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02-28-2009, 04:46 PM	#9
Tannhauser Join Date: Nov 2007 Canada Location: Québec, Montréal Posts: 1,226	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy Even tho this might be very realistic and logical for bot sides to have longer respawn times if knifed (I'd apply this for every conventional armies too, if you got knifed you deserve it IMO), I must disagree because of the gameplay effects it will have. Not only will it encourage knifing as much as possible, but it'll also make the job even harder for insurgents ; And believe me, even if the Ins team is well coord, a well coord US/GB team will steamroll them, no matter what. This won't help IMO, unless Insurgents gain more firepower, then it'd be fair.
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02-28-2009, 08:47 PM	#10
[uBp]Irish Join Date: Jan 2007 United States of America Location: Bloomington IN Posts: 1,649	Re: All Insurgent Arrests - Same Increased Spawntime as Civvy I agree. If you're dumb enough to get arrested, you should reap the consequence.
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