changes to scoped rifles

[Human_001]

I have searched and read posts to best of my ability. But as usual, this could be resuggestion.

1. Give scoped rifle same Recoil as iron sight rifle. This is absolutely realistic(because mounting scope has nothing to do with gun recoil) and this is one of huge disadvantage when using scoped gun. Visual insability after shots compare to iron sight.

2. Make iron sight and scoped rifle accuracy same. Mounting scope has nothing to do with gun MOA, and this is abusolutely realistic.

Above suggestion will give iron sights its real life advantage and stop scoped rifle from having unrealistic advantage.

If this is resuggestion, please tell me the reason why above are not in game.

[LudacrisKill]

I do believe they are the same for both no?

[[R-MOD]Spec]

I'm not sure, but I think the recoil only appears harder on scoped rifles since the picture is zoomed in.

The accuracy is different indeed iirc. For gameplay reasons. Scoped is worse in CQB but better in ranged combat, this is supported by the deviation - which does not only simulate the weapons' characteristics, but also the soldiers'.

[Tirak]

This issue could be solved with the Realistic Ballistics that Crazy, Zangoo and I think a few others worked so hard to perfect. So when do we get it in Devs?

[Th3Exiled]

Heres the facts:

1) Scoped rifles have same recoil as iron sighted weapons until they zoom in, in which case they have 40% less recoil.
2) Scoped rifles are more accurate when put under similar conditions to their ironsighted counterparts. ie. Every deviation modifier is higher on iron sighted weapons.
3) Settle times are the same.
4) Scoped weapons have a zoom and have a much smaller FOV.
5) Iron sighted weapons sight in slightly faster (only advantage apart from the larger FOV) but that doesn't matter because you won't be able to hit them anyway because of higher deviation.

It's been said that sight in times are being reduced for at least scoped weapons, it's also been said that the deviation will be the same next release for iron sighted and scoped rifles.

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[Arnoldio]

Yeah, the recoil should be equal or maybe a bit lower for the scoped,10-15%, no more.

[gerardnm]

Go back to version .7 for cqc and rifle accuracy its like bf2 at the mo..PLease dont leave it as it is brutal.

[Conman51]

i think the recoil is the same...just when your scoped in it seems bigger because the zoom, the accuracy should be the same though

[Th3Exiled]

Originally Posted by Conman51=US=

i think the recoil is the same...just when your scoped in it seems bigger because the zoom, the accuracy should be the same though

Same until you zoom, like I said, in which case it has 40% less recoil. I might add its alot easier to hit a target with the scoped vesion of the rifle in basically every situation.
Only time you stand a moderately good chance against an enemy with a scoped weapon is when he doesn't notice you..... and is standing still..... out in the open.... throwing grenades at his feet.....
Well, exagerated I know, but my point is not that your disadvantaged with an iron sighted rifle, but that there is really no advantage worth taking the rifle for. Sure you can sight in faster, but that doesn't mean you will be able to hit them, by the time you can get a semi accurate shot which is not even Guarantied to hit your target, hes been able to scope in take a couple of shots and still be fairly accurate after each one. At a point like this you don't stand a chance, the only real way of beating him is through superior manuevering and shooting him before he can find you. While it would be ideal if these fire fights could be won through out thinking your enemies rather then who has an optic and/or uses cheap moves (insta proning, bunny hoping, etc) to win. However currently if you posses an optic it gives you a huge advantage over iron sights due to less deviation requiring less tactical play to defeat the enemy.

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