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Old 12-14-2008, 06:00 AM   #1
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Default The utility chopper designation I'd like to see in game

Inspired by Cassius' Chinook thread, I've decided to post what I think would be the best (if possible to implement) layout of utility helicopters for the various factions. I know that this would take a very long time and lots of hard work, and of course there's every chance that the DEVs would differ in opinion (and probably will) but what the hell, I think it'd just be interesting to get some community thoughts on the subject. Choppers we already have in-game are highlighted in bold.

British Army

0 supply crates - Lynx (holds 9 seated troops)
1 supply crate - Merlin (holds 24 seated troops)
2 supply crates - Chinook (holds 33 seated troops)

US Army

0 supply crates - MH-6 Little Bird (holds 5 seated troops)
1 supply crate - UH-60 Blackhawk (holds 14 seated troops)
2 supply crates - CH-47 Chinook (holds 33 seated troops)

USMC

0 supply crates - UH-1N Twin Huey or UH-1Y Venom (both hold 8 seated troops)
1 supply crate - CH-46 Sea Knight or MV-22 Osprey (both hold 24 seated troops)
2 supply crates - CH-53E or CH-53K Sea Stallion (both hold 37 seated troops, in standard configuration)

MEC

0 supply crates - Eurocopter EC 635 (holds 7 seated troops)
1 supply crate - Eurocopter AS 365 Dauphin or Kamov Ka-60 Kasatka (hold 12 and 16 seated troops respectively)
2 supply crates - Mil Mi-17 (holds 32 seated troops)

PLA

0 supply crates - Changhe Z-11 (holds 6 seated troops)
1 supply crate - Harbin Z-9, Chinese-built AS 365 Dauphin (holds 12 seated troops)
2 supply crates - Mil Mi-17 (holds 32 seated troops)

Russia

0 supply crates - Kamov Ka-115 Moskvichka or Kamov Ka-226 Sergei (hold 5 and 9 seated troops respectively).
1 supply crate - Kamov Ka-60 Kasatka (holds 16 seated troops)
2 supply crates - Mil Mi-17 (holds 32 seated troops)

IDF

0 supply crates - MD 500 Defender (holds 5 seated troops)
1 supply crate - Sikorsky S-70 Blackhawk (holds 14 seated troops)
2 supply crates - Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion

Finally, about the CH-46 Sea Knight and MV-22 Osprey. I'm aware replacement of the CH-46 by the MV-22 started back in 2006 and is due to be complete by 2014, but in the near future (whre PR is set) it's always possible that things could change. Think about it, if the US was drawn into a large-scale, massive resource-draining global conflict against the Middle East and China, I think it's fairly reasonable to say that the 2014 deadline would be very hard to meet. Hell, some previously retired CH-46's could even be taken out of mothballs and reinstated. As for the MV-22, I'd love to see it in game but from what I understand the current model is too bug-ridden and unusable. I'm hoping in the future this could be resolved, if not there's still the CH-46.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:50 PM   #2
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I wish it could be done but there is no way to get more then 8 seats in a veichle.

The internet makes you stupid.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:57 PM   #3
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I think he knows that, he's only posting the numbers to get an idea about the size of each helicopter and why they would hold the number of crates that he suggests. Anyways, good idea overall, but thats a lot of modeling in store for any dev actually interested.


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Old 12-14-2008, 01:30 PM   #4
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I think he knows that, he's only posting the numbers to get an idea about the size of each helicopter and why they would hold the number of crates that he suggests. Anyways, good idea overall, but thats a lot of modeling in store for any dev actually interested.
Indeed, thanks man

In all 6 new choppers would need to be modelled and then there's also the issue of reskinning some of the existing ones. Like I said in my original post, a lot of time and hard work. But, a man can dream right?
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Old 12-14-2008, 02:31 PM   #5
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I wouldnt even mind the chinook in place of the CH-63 since they do look a bit similar, as long as the huey was gone. The amount of hueys in the USMC seems to be way overstated by what is represented in PR compared to the amount of usage in reality.
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Old 12-14-2008, 02:36 PM   #6
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A blackhawk can get 14 people crammed in it?!

Anyway, I think those are all pretty close if not exactly the same as what the DEVs are intending to go with.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:27 PM   #7
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2 supplie crates and a jeep for the big boys would be nice

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Old 12-14-2008, 04:28 PM   #8
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I like this idea. It could compensate for the 8 seats limit.
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PLA
1 supply crate - Harbin Z-9, Chinese-built AS 365 Dauphin (holds 12 seated troops)
2 supply crates - Mil Mi-17 (holds 32 seated troops)
The Z-9 would be a nice addition to the Chinese airforce indeed.
I think the Z-8 (Chinese-built SA 321 Super Frelon) is more suitable than the Mi-17 (think variety !). It carries up to 27 troops (and there's a vBF2 model, quite bad-looking though)

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MEC
1 supply crate - Eurocopter AS 365 Dauphin or Kamov Ka-60 Kasatka (hold 12 and 16 seated troops respectively)
Maybe the Mi-24 Hind with some cargo capacity instead ? ^^

Are the MD500 and these Kamov light choppers widely used anyway ?
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:57 PM   #9
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This is good, but that's quite a few models that need to be made. Too many IMO. It would take very long. I thought about a variant of the HIND being used by maybe the Militia or something, that is a gunship and carries troops at the same time.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:58 PM   #10
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This is good, but that's quite a few models that need to be made. Too many IMO. It would take very long. I thought about a variant of the HIND being used by maybe the Militia or something, that is a gunship and carries troops at the same time.
Ice has got a Sea Knight model and a Sea Stallion Model he's never finished.


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